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  • MF News United Forum approaches SAT on commission disclosure issue

    United Forum approaches SAT on commission disclosure issue

    Distributors believe that the practice of disclosing gross commission in absolute terms may induce pass backs.
    Nishant Patnaik Oct 13, 2016

    United Forum has filed an appeal with Securities Appellate Tribunal (SAT) against SEBI on the commission disclosure issue, said two sources familiar with the development. United Forum is a federation of various IFA/distributor associations.

    In its appeal, United Forum has opposed the recent SEBI circular in which it has asked fund houses to disclose commission structure of distributors in the half-yearly account statements in absolute terms.

    United Forum has engaged Finsec Law Advisors to file this appeal against SEBI. Finsec Law Advisors had represented FPSB in the SRO case.

    A few days back, a distributor was quoted in a Mint newspaper, “SEBI has been asked to file a reply in four weeks, explaining why the circular is in the interests of the market.”

    Ever since the market regulator instructed AMCs to disclose commissions of distributors in the account statement, many distributors have vehemently opposed this move as they believe that this rule will be regressive and induce pass back practice by investors.

    In fact, Cafemutual’s recent poll on impact of commission disclosure on adviser-client relationship shows that a majority of distributors (56%) feel that this disclosure would induce pass back from investors, another 29% felt that it would have no impact on their business and the remaining 14% said that it would actually help strengthen client-distributor relationship.

     

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    22 Comments
    GOWRISHANKAR K N · 7 years ago `
    Dear Mr. Sinha,

    Lets have a deal. If you insist that the commissions on funds sourced by Distributors should be made transparent, I challenge you to make a disclosure as to the amount of your Salary, Perks, etc., etc., so that we can compare whether your living standards are in tune with your salary or there is room for some investigation by the I T Department.
    C R Gopinathan Nair · 7 years ago `
    Very good move. Thanks to United Forum.
    What is the position of SRO case in which Finsec Law Advisors represented FPSB?
    dilpreet singh bagga · 7 years ago `
    Transparency in the name of commission disclosure is nothing but mirage....it is indeed a step towards killing the distributor fraternity. Make customer's mandatory to invest through distributors if the investment amount goes above 1 Lac a year....like audit is mandatory an case of companies or firms having turnover or revenue above a limit....It will ensure both parties...customers and distributors are on the same platform..
    Goutam · 7 years ago `
    Who has polled? That 56%,29% &14% Distributors has polled! I have not polled.If anybody knows it who has polled, plz tell me
    Nishant Patnaik · 7 years ago
    This is part of our opinion poll in which over 8300 distributors have participated. Here is the result

    According to you, SEBI's rule to disclose distributor commission in a/c statement:

    Will have no impact: 2537 votes, 29%

    Will induce pass back practice : 4590 votes, 56%

    Will help strengthen client-distributor relationship: 1174 votes, 14%
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    Kishan · 7 years ago `
    This is very good move however let's see what is the outcome.

    IFAs are against the commission disclosure in absolute term as this will have negative impact on the MF Industry. India has not yet ready for fees based model.

    AMFI needs to get solution on this issue.
    Nalli Surendra · 7 years ago `
    Fare enough! Then, why not apply the same rule to the Life Insurance Industry, General Insurance, FDs, PPF, other financial products? And let the customer know that how much the distributors are compensated across the financial products... Just singling out MF is not fair & there is more malacious intentions of regulator...
    purusottam mantri · 7 years ago `
    only a good move if everybody disclose there profit/commission/revenue in there product,as for example any item you purchase from market must disclose its profit to the everyone(wholeseller,retailler,manufacturer etc),which is not possible than why only MF
    Prashant · 7 years ago `
    This is done so that the customer will know what we are earning and will go to AMCs directly and AMCs can eat the whole pie by keeping the entire expense ratio to themselves. AMCs are anyways allowed to increase the expense ratio of schemes. There is another consultation paper out for compulsory RIA registration. Anybody knows if we can vote and where can we vote.
    Hari Om · 7 years ago `
    THANKS
    Prof. rajni M Shah · 7 years ago `
    Globally, world over , full disclosure is mandated as a part of corporate social responsibility. Why this hesitation, despair for IFA fraternity in India ? United Forum SAT in my considered view is a lost cause per se. Discerning professionals perceive the same way. May not say out openly. It is high time , shall be wise and prudent, for IFA fraternity , AMCs to devote time and resources for organisation development, with management orientation. Going beyond MF products and processes. And operate successfully in a fiercely competitive market space for sustainable growth and performance .
    Kanti Vaghela · 7 years ago
    Prof. Rajnisaheb. I am asking one single question to you. Why are you oppose united forum? I don't think your main income is from this business. Because you are making this statement saws you are earning from other sources. If you are not doing anything good for our Arn community then why pool the legs of person who are doing goods to them. I am with united forum i appreciate the stwp taken by united forum and I proud be part of mutual fund distribution community.
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    DONTHULA SURYA PRAKASH · 7 years ago `
    Who has polled? That 56%,29% &14% Distributors has polled? I have not polled. If anybody knows it who has polled, plz tell me. Nobody accepted SEBI's decision.
    TARUN THAKKAR · 7 years ago `
    sir NO PROBELEM OF DISCLOUSER OF OUR EARNING BUT AUTHORITY MAKE ENSURE ALL ENTITY IN THE COUNRY ENGAGING IN EARNING SHOULD CATER THEIR EARNINGS
    Dipanjan Dutta · 7 years ago `
    Dear Prof rajni M shah , i dont know what kind of professor you are but if you are in teaching would you like your salary disclosed to your student and also give the power to your student whether their contribution towards your salary is justified or not and they can opt out. If u r ok with variable salary at the mercy of your student the we are also ok
    aMFFA, Asso. of distributors · 7 years ago `
    A very good move by United forum. We sincerely thanks to United Forum and we with our 100 members are with them.
    Kirtikumar Wani · 7 years ago `
    I support United Forum. ! United we stand, divided we fall. ! I don't believe survey. !
    Dharmendra Mehta · 7 years ago `
    A very good move by United forum.
    present disclosure and remarks line creates Misunderstanding in Investor Mind.
    The remarks like commission includes Trip,gift, rewards etc. If any distributors will go for family trip their investor will ask them - Is it supported by Mutual Fund?
    DONTHULA SURYA PRAKASH · 7 years ago `
    Very good move. Thanks to United Forum.
    What is the position of SRO case in which Finsec Law Advisors represented FPSB?
    Manoranjan Acharya · 7 years ago `
    A very good move by UF and it will destroy the industry and business. It is India and we should act as an Indian nature. what is the right of any organisation to disclose my income to public,it is my remuneration
    against of my work I am getting. This is not the benefit of the investor rather it will create a controvecial attitude of the investors on investment and many IFA/Distributors may left the job of selling mutual fund.Many more points are to be discuss but not now. This move is completely against of the industry and investor interest. plz. save don't destroy it is my request.
    jaydeep solanki · 7 years ago `
    Dear Team @ United Forum,

    Very good move. We should open all the thing. We need to expose AMC also. Why here is discrimination between IFA and AMC if we are getting 0.50% to 1 % trail they are also getting more than 1% tws fund managment charges. They should also collect the charge separately from Investor. Then there will be level playing field.
    Any Regulatory body can not have two standard, one IFA's commission is in absolute terms and for AMC charges it is in percentage.
    PRK · 7 years ago `
    Any body can help by sharing what Reply has been given by SEBI? it is already 4 weeks over!!!
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