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  • MF News SEBI to come out with a discussion paper on reduction of expense ratio

    SEBI to come out with a discussion paper on reduction of expense ratio

    SEBI intends to reduce total expense ratio (TER) in mutual funds.
    Nishant Patnaik Dec 22, 2017

    SEBI wants to bring down the total expense ratio (TER) in mutual funds. In fact, the regulator will soon come out with a discussion paper on TER.SEBI Chairman Ajay Tyagi shared this with Cafemutual on the sidelines of the eighth CII Financial Markets Summit held recently in Mumbai.

    Tyagi said that SEBI has been discussing this matter and has also communicated its intent to AMFI.

    Recently, G Mahalingam, Whole Time Member, SEBI had said at an industry event that the industry is having good times and good times are the best times to take bitter medicine. “There are areas where we need to work further. One is the TER. We are consulting the industry to understand what we can do in this area. How do we shrink it further? How do we ensure that the investors get better deal? This is something, which we need to work on so that our jurisdiction does not jut out in comparison to some of the advanced countries in terms of TER,” said Mahalingam.

    A CEO of a foreign fund house told Cafemutual that SEBI wants to bring down the TER cap in mutual funds to 2%. One fallout of reducing TER, he said would be that it may limit the commission paying capacity of AMCs. He said, “Globally, costs are coming down. If TER comes down, naturally, fund houses cannot pay the commission they are paying today. IFAs cannot expect to increase their revenues through higher commissions.”

    The only way for IFAs to grow is use technology to grow volumes. “IFAs can grow business by increasing sales volume with the help of technology,” he added.

     

     

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    15 Comments
    Rakesh · 6 years ago `
    Good step .
    TER should be slab as per total AUM in AMC
    Not as per scheme wise

    1.5 % for 1lac cr
    1.6% for 90k cr
    1.7% for 80k cr
    1.8% for 70k cr
    1.9% for 60k cr
    2% less than 50k cr

    Today all AMC AUM increasing rapidly due to online mode

    Same for distributor it should be

    0.5% trail for less than 5 cr AUM
    0.4 % trail upto 10 cr
    0.3 more than 10 cr

    Also remove direct plan as TER reduced
    MD Tanveer Alam · 6 years ago
    What about B15 commission that should scraped and once you reduce expenses then direct plan should be scraped
    Reply
    Fernandes · 6 years ago `
    Has SEBI even seen what insurance companies pay commission for ULIPs... Upto 30% commission... They products are sold as investment products like Mutual Funds.
    Prashant · 6 years ago
    Please don't spread rumours. You are just misleading everyone. Ulips are giving maximum of 4% per annum on premiums only and not aum so insurance agent will earn less than mutual fund distributors. Stop misleading.
    Reply
    Prashant · 6 years ago `
    But AMCs will be able to increase salaries for all their employees so only we the distributors have to face all the reduction in TER. I would like to see SEBI micromanage salaries as they are micromanaging our brokerage. All the distributors should stop doing business and come together against this idiotic and malicious regulations. I do not understand why we have to keep TER in line with global standards. Their country is at a different level..we are not developed economy and equity participation is very very low which SEBI wants to reduce further or if it growz they are making regulations which benefits AMCs at the cost of investors (SEBI is a regulator who is supposed to safeguard investors). Also whenever SEBI talks about reducing TER AMCs cry foul and says they will not be able to pay the same brokerage but never reduces salaries for the benefit of crores of investors..why? Shame shame shame
    Vikas Gupta · 6 years ago
    I agree with you completely.
    Reply
    Arvind Thakur · 6 years ago `
    Funds Managers salary and perks should be capped, direct plans should also be banned.
    Vishal Doshi · 6 years ago `
    SEBI should stop tinkering with TERs since investors have the option of going direct...If TERs are reduced further than MF industry will take a hit ...in Bull mkt everything looks rosy. SEBI should regulate ULIP and Insurance product commissions and stop messing around with MFs.
    Harsh · 6 years ago `
    Hi. Sebi should ideally do the below:

    1. Put minimum TER at 0.5% and cap the maximum TER at 2.25%

    Let the industry put any expense ratio at or above 0.5% and let the “free” markets theory do the rest.

    If some of the AMCs feel, they can go direct and serve all the investors with only their products (AMCs cannot sell funds of other fund houses), let them go ahead & take that call.

    We all know how have “deep” the Direct Only AMCs have penetrated (less than 0.1% of Industry AUM in the last 5 years)

    So rather than getting upset with AMCs capturing clients directly, let them give our best wishes in doing so.
    JITENDRA KUMAR GUPTA · 6 years ago `
    LIC, is since long & doing progress because there is no extra Benefits at branch , either from Agent or Branch same policy.. In Mutual funds they are making direct plan which confuse investor, for .50%, he got confused or lot of people didn't invest due to this... In Mutual funds most of distributor are getting .50% to .75% trail , so it's discouraged to small IFA like me.

    They are getting more businesses due to IFA and there is lot of expenses of IFA, if it will happen, in short I am sure that AUM will be Half surely. JYADA SUCCESS MILNE PR INSAN KUCH JYADA hi SOCHNE LGTA H.

    FUND MANAGERS, AMC expenses, THEIR 5 STAR HOTEL PARTY km kr do. Employees ki salary increment KM KRO, IFA ko THODA sa DETE ho, USME bhi REDUCTION.. HAHAHA
    Vikas Gupta · 6 years ago
    I totally agree with you.
    Reply
    Vikas Gupta · 6 years ago `
    Why Govt. is treating MF Industry differently than other financial products? Why govt. is not considering reducing expanse ratio in insurance industry? In life insurance, commission is even more than 50% in some policies sold by big distributors, recently motor insurance commission has been increased, why there is no difference on non life insurance policies whether sold by intermediary or direct?
    Secondly, amcs pay differently to national distributors than ifas while it is a well established fact that funds mobilised by ifas remain for a longer duration with MFs which is basic to long term investment & beneficial for investors as well as amcs. The Lavish treatment is given to the missellers & TER is compensated from the ifas. Why?
    ANJANI KUMAR KOPPALA · 6 years ago `
    In My view if AMC's want to reduce the TER and if it directly benefits the Investor, its very good.
    My suggestions as follows
    1. cap the TER to maximum 1.5%
    2. Remove the direct code system
    3. also limit the B-15 incentive to between 0.3% to 0.5%
    4. standardize the schemes of various AMC's.
    5. Bring common application for all AMC's and common online transaction platform for all AMC's.
    6. If AMC's can reduce the unwarranted expenses they can very well settle down with 1.5% TER.
    Fintown · 6 years ago `
    IFAs are doing noble sevices ..they are getting the lowest commission in financial industry. Still why running direct plans? Why there is 30 to 40percent commission in teaditional plan? How can a regular ULIP plan can give more than 10percent commision. Check what is given by Bajaj allianz,Icici pru life etc.. In addition to all the injustice towards IFA, there will be monthly reports from CDSL etc how much commision IFA earns per scheme. So customers think IFA are taking huge money and when they see direct plans too, they surely think like we IFA had done somethong wrong and cheated them. Any market ,whether it is big or small shop , if you buy any consumer purchase, they will charge you from 10 to30percent. They increase it year after year. If you act as sub broker to any MF distributor, again you are not safe and Mf distributors are deducting commision which is not transperent from IFAs. Here, even after low commision, still you have direct plan and customers are getting monthly reports from Depository companies about the commision IFA are earning monthly and act as innocent and IFA are culprint in front of custoers and are like fools not even organised to say their concern. Any IFA hearing? Even non profit social organisation has scope to earn more money than an Ifa and it is time to act fast to solve the problems of IFA
    C R Gopinathan Nair · 6 years ago `
    Appropriate to reduce TER & Commission /brokerage so that direct investments can be brought down.
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