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  • MF News No more upfront commission to MF distributors: SEBI

    No more upfront commission to MF distributors: SEBI

    SEBI asks fund houses to follow all-trail model to compensate distributors.
    Nishant Patnaik Sep 19, 2018

    SEBI has today asked fund houses not to pay upfront commission to mutual fund distributors. In fact, the market regulator has asked fund houses to follow all-trail model to compensate their distributors.

    The market regulator has clarified that fund houses will have to pay such commissions from scheme and not from AMC book. In addition, SEBI has asked fund houses not to do upfronting of any trail commission. However, fund houses can do upfronting of trail commission on SIPs subject to fulfilment of pre-defined conditions.

    In a press release, SEBI said, “All commission and expenses, etc. shall necessarily be paid from the scheme only and not from the AMC/Associate/Sponsor/Trustee, or any other route. Further, the mutual fund industry must adopt the full trail model of commission in all schemes without payment of any upfront commission or upfronting of any trail commission. A carve out has been provided for upfronting of trail commission in case of SIPs subject to fulfilment of certain conditions.”

    On TER structure, SEBI has introduced fresh AUM slabs and given a roadmap to fund houses on how they can make changes to their TER based on asset size of the scheme.

    While the market regulator has capped TER at 2.25% in equity funds and 2% in other than equity funds, SEBI has followed economies of scale to reduce TER systematically.

    Here is the TER for open ended schemes

    Similarly, fund houses cannot charge more than 1.25% in close end equity funds and 1% in close end debt funds. SEBI has also asked fund houses to charge a maximum TER of 1% on passive funds such as index funds and ETFs.

    On fund of funds (FOFs), SEBI has said that FOFs investing in liquid, index and ETFs cannot charge over 1%. On the other hand, FOFs investing primarily in actively managed funds can charge up to 2.25% in equity funds and 2% in other than equity funds.

    SEBI said that the slab wise limits of TER were introduced in 1996 and observed that over time, there have been varying practices in the industry with respect to charging of expenses and payment of commissions. SEBI said, “The Board took note of the benefits of the proposal with respect to sharing of economies of scale, lowering the cost for mutual fund investors, bringing in transparency in appropriation of expenses, and reducing mis-selling and churning.”

    SEBI has also clarified that additional expenses of 30 bps for penetration in B30 cities is applicable only if assets come from retail investors. “The additional incentive shall be permitted for inflows from individual investors only and not on inflows from corporates and institutions. Further, the B-30 incentive shall be paid as trail only,” SEBI said.

    The market regulator has also asked fund houses to disclose performance of their schemes against its total return index benchmark on AMFI website.

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    64 Comments
    REETA TREHN · 5 years ago `
    SEBI has recently barred mutual funds from releasing of trail commission of all the old folios where investor's kyc is not done/pending. We are having many clients/folios where there is no fresh transactions and the time we book business , the kyc compliance was not mandatory. Stopping commission in non kyc compliant folios is totally wrong. Where is the fault of distributors/ifa. In banks where no kyc compliance done banks freeze the account and donot allow transactions to the account holder. Previously GST has been implemented on us which is to be paid by the AMCs along with commission to the distributors where as AMCs very easily say whatever brokerage we are paying is inclusive of GST. Is that not wrong. They are utilising our services and they should paid GST in addition to commission.
    Mangesh · 5 years ago
    Mutual fund sahi hai, but for Banks, Amazon, let us watch it for next year then they will.understand the importance of advisors.Market will be down like 2008, and then request all advisors to charge fees for their new clients in advance, so that they may moved again getting your advice to direct plan. In that crucial period, our advise and suggestions and strategy will be more useful, but charge it...
    Alok · 5 years ago
    Charging advisory fee is now advisable. However , who is going to bell the cat of life insurance where payouts are 40 to 60%+ and even go to 100% of first year premium. Life insurance market aum is even bigger than MF market. Why they are not reducing payouts in Life Insurance where returns are less than 6%
    Tapaniya · 5 years ago
    Is Insurance companies give something to sebi panel ?
    Mutual fund distributor ke pichhe pad gaye he ye log.

    Ek bar kisi village me mutual fund bech ke dekho to pata chale... Mf me esa karna chahiye ya nahi..


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    Anuj · 5 years ago `
    Ajay tayagi n his panel ko hatao
    anurag dureha · 5 years ago
    History tells that any organisation or corporate if headed by non-technocrats...(bureaucrats), heads towards ruination. They rarely succeed.
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    anurag dureha · 5 years ago `
    SEBI re-defining cap on TER is understood but it should not be at the cost of IFA's hard earnings ? If the Upfront is being replaced by Trail, it is ok but if overall commissions to IFAs are being impacted adversely, SEBI needs to rethink. It took few decades for the investors to gain confidence in Mutual Funds and the role, efforts and costs incurred by IFAs towards that cannot be undermined.
    I hope SEBI is not giving a bright idea to RBI to reduce the salaries and perks of bank staff to bail banks out of current crisis due to rising NPAs.
    Madhusudan · 5 years ago
    In my point of view SEBI should banned mutual fund selling through IFAs instead of regulating such bogas ideas.
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    Tyari ajay · 5 years ago `
    Remove the Ifa channel and let the investor flourish in direct Nav is my sole focus in MF industry. For this goal in coming mnths we might adopt entry loads in regular Nav plans further little half yearly settlement of brokerage payout to our beautiful silent Ifa fraternity since they are like small kids who don't shout utter speak simply follow rules......
    PULKIT · 5 years ago `
    What, Really ?
    Shripad Joshi · 5 years ago `
    We are all customer centric. We believe that we flourish only when our customer flourishes.

    It takes multiple visits to convert one investment.

    One should never forget the bad times of markets when all advisors suffered a big torture from customers.

    All these efforts by advisors has brought the industry at this level.

    Hence, advisors deserve proper respect and monetory benefits too..
    Rita · 5 years ago
    Absolutely true actually.. but now days no one is thinking about this prospective
    Only ifa is making money no one else is making money.
    How much effort to one life time client service needed no one's else knows other than IFA
    Joseph · 5 years ago
    Direct investment - customer benefits 'cause, distributors commission is passed on to customer. Shouldn't the AMC passon the expenses they charge to customers. This will really be direct. Question is how will AMC survive. AMC wants distributors not to survive. Why you want agents in Life insurance and not want agents (distributors) in mutual funds, who really bring business. Stop trail and upfront commission to distributors and see what happens. Please start this trend and you will panic and than bring impromptu decision such that investing in mutual funds grow. Can SEBI amc officials stop taking their salaries so that it benefits customers. This is hypocrisy. Mera kutta kurta aur tumhare kutta Tommy.
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    Sagar · 5 years ago `
    I always says agar kit admi due to no income kit karma chata hai to pahele apni salary to kam karo badme ap dushroko advice dena ke ye kam karna hai
    vinay · 5 years ago `
    It will be disastrous. Today for IFAs and tomorrow for Industry.
    Sam · 5 years ago `
    I as advisor doing mutual fund right now. When I was agent selling insurance to the clients ulip plan and commission paid at that time 15% to 25% normally period 2004 to 2011. Now these days insurance co. Are not permoting ulip plans because of less commission . And client was bound to take period of minium 5 yrs or else your fund will transfer to distcontinuace fund . Result client loses his appreciation of money against inflation . If client continues the same ulip plan the agent will get 6% in first yr.....2 % onwards, but in ulip charges are more which result to higher income to companies not for individual.
    On the other hand if client invest in mutual fund through broker and the broker will earn presently 1.4% throughout the yr. If client continues his investment for next five yrs, broker received the trail commision (.7*5 =.35%) total five yrs. This load too much in the eyes of SEBI where client was happy to take service from their broker. One more thing in traditional plan 40% commision given to agents in insurance on first installment and later on 5% commission . These are not expensive products in the eyes of SEBI or IRDA. The ARN holder or agent making effort of earning money for their lifestyle. Top official or companies are not happy with the growing income category of an individual.
    Aditya · 5 years ago `
    IFAs should make representation for their concerns. AFAs are the the biggest stake holder in the industry.
    Vijay · 5 years ago
    Just Remember M.K Gandhi and his movement of Non-Cooperation and follow the path showed by him.
    Narendra Yadav · 5 years ago
    Boycott the new business for one month. And see the changes.
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    Ajay Sharma · 5 years ago `
    Shaabash Mr. Tyagi..! Kudos to you. You proved that you are a typical government servant, out to disrupt a law abiding, tax paying MF distribution industry. You have shown the caliber of your sarkari cadre yet again.
    Nitin · 5 years ago
    Just see Mr tyagi when his and salaries are capped and dies not get ex gratia, and zero pension ,
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    GURUNATH.B.Nadgir. · 5 years ago `
    What is the main idea of changing the brokerage structure of IFA by the SEBI is not acceptable by large community of IFA .The all other aspects of procuring funds for fund house by the IFA's the activity involved with mental and physical energy and the expenses involved also be considered to compensate them fairly.Hence SEBI also look into the matter other financial institutions like Banks etc what is there margin for operations and the returns offered to depositors anyway it is regulated by RBI. Banks NPA and frauds are coming to light day by day. But in respect boost the financial market it is an adverse decision.
    By evaluating so many parameters SEBI should not poke its nose more and on of.
    Bajrangi Chaubey · 5 years ago `
    People like Ajay Tyagi should also think about their salary they get it's a load on government and to cut it he should be paid only 15000 per month with no other allowances which is minimum salary benchmark by govt.but like politicians they need increment every year whereas IFA income he is trying to cut and finally end it.Shame of such people.
    tdevendra · 5 years ago
    SEBI,AMFI,AMCS,BANKS, have forgotten their core functionalities and started houding MF, IFa distribution distortation since 5 years . while crores of rs are paid to the fund houses, fund managers, sebi organisers, no such barriers for reduction of perks, pelf, salaries . human conscience in their terminology is hit the below class time and again. they are out and out working day and day only to destroy the poor ifa's who are shabbilly treated. it takes a minimum of 10 years for an IFA to earn a decent salary of rs 25000 pm which is still insufficient for the m to eke their living without house, good education for their children. SEBI, AMCS, amfi want ifa;s a poor quality of ifa's while their fraternity lives in iconic towers. middle class people paying 360 deg taxes (including payment to the fund houses, banks, amcs, sebi, amfi) for their hardly work. acche din for the above
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    Mohammed arif · 5 years ago `
    Black day for All IFA
    Hari krishna · 5 years ago `
    In case of insurance the period is predefined and the insurance agent get the commission throughout period of the policy. But in the case of mutual funds every transaction is new. In case of no upfront it is very difficult for ifas to survive. I can understand why sebi is doing these type of steps. And no from the industry fight against it.
    Lalita · 5 years ago `
    Sabase achha hai ki sab ifa mf ka kam hi band kar de 1 m ke liye ..from today ..sebi ko bhi samajh a jayega...
    Arun · 5 years ago `
    Mutual Fund Sahi hai..
    Direct sales Sahi hai..
    Ab IFA ki jarurat nahi hai...
    Sanjay. Patil · 5 years ago `
    We must want stop our business for 1 months then sebi see what is important s of IFA
    Yogesh agicha · 5 years ago `
    Stop working for some day to show role of IFA.let the fund houses and there employees also suffer without fulfilling there targets .
    B.Ramakotireddy · 5 years ago `
    In secondary towns& rural areas the mutual fund business is most expensive decreasing trail commission is very bad to distributes.
    Narendra Dattatray Shringarpure · 5 years ago `
    1. What will be the impact on NFOs of discontinuation of Upfront Commission?
    2. What is Total Trail model?
    Ashoke Kumar Basu · 5 years ago `
    In every employment there are some weapons to fight with inflation and all are being taken care by the regulator (either Govt. or anybody) as far as social security is concern but here, the scenario is absolutely opposite which will spread poison into the system slowly....
    Ashoke Kumar Basu · 5 years ago `
    In every employment there are some weapons to fight with inflation and all are being taken care by the regulator (either Govt. or anybody) as far as social security is concern but here, the scenario is absolutely opposite which will spread poison into the system slowly....
    Ashoke Kumar Basu · 5 years ago
    Extremely Sorry, sent twice...
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    Ravikanth.Matri · 5 years ago `
    We the advisors convince and explain about the markets to clients,and get the business,and we Ifa's play a major role to build the mf industry to grow, but finally we only don't get recognised from the hard work we do,just think how hard we work and how much we get.there rbso many businesses in the markets, on how much margin they do the business. Pls think.
    Waryam Singh · 5 years ago `
    In india where 76% people financially illiterate. in that india IFA's role very critical for the growth of MF industry. First question on AMFI &AMC ...What the hell they are doing...They just making their own profit. 2nd question on SEBI whose rein in such a person who have very limited thinking. The business could be done by two ways ...either increasing the sale (profit) or reducing the expenses. Later choice very harmful to any industry..and definitely its impact will come in coming days. In india where MF industry is in its childhood phase such decision discourage the growth of this industry. So urge to AMC ...have their presentation to Sebi. With this move You could flourish INDIA BUT NOT BHARAT.
    Vaibhav jadhav · 5 years ago
    In India mf industry is very small comparatively other country and awareness of mutual fund in rural place is very less or not hence sebi declared IFA should not get upfront commission then new IFA cant come in mf industry hence mf industry will not grow..... And I listed sebi agenda every individual should invest in share market how is possible without IFA hence I request sebi should not take action.
    Md Javed Alam · 5 years ago
    IFA's do not have any common platform or any Union, So SEBI always takes us as granted and do not bother about us. Its really an irony.
    Narayan Haldar · 5 years ago
    SEBI ko ye bhi sochna chaiche ke distributor Mutual Business promot karte hai puri honesty ke sath NFO kitna direct sall hota hai ? market kharap hone par kitna redemption ho jata hai kon ata hai client ko himmat dene ke liye sirf aur sifr IFA s ek distibutor ko hata kar income ghata kar khas kar ke ji avi avi apna career start kiya hoiunke sath ye galat kiya ja raha hai aisa karna hai to fir ye NISM eaxm kyu ? remot area me ki tarha se mutual fund sell karna itna easy nahi ek distributor je service provid karta hai client ko...banks ya koi aur nahi karta hai MF sell karne ke baad to fir distributor ke sath ye parciality bohot galat ho raha hai bank employyes me to itna unity hai ke apna hak ke liye sara desh var ke bank me strick kar dete hai dharna laga dete hai par MF distributor ko vi unted hona bohot jaruri hai barna kisi din SEBI ye vi ratorat bata degi ke distributor nahi chaiche...
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