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  • MF News Experts take on upfront commission ban and TER reduction

    Experts take on upfront commission ban and TER reduction

    We spoke to a few industry experts to understand the impact of upfront commission ban and TER rationalisation.
    Nishant Patnaik & Shreeta Rege Sep 19, 2018

    Srikanth Meenakshi, Founder and COO, FundsIndia.com

    Ban on upfront commission and the move to all-trail model are welcome measures for the industry. It will encourage a long-term focus among distributors. So while, it will affect their revenues in the short term, patience will be rewarded.

    On reduction of TER, only handful of schemes will have a significant impact on their fees. However, small sized AMCs and schemes will stand to benefit from this move. It could influence many distributors to recommend products offered by these AMCs. In my view, there are small sized schemes with good track record and performance. However, they have not get the attention they deserved.

    Rajiv Bajaj, Chairman and Managing Director, Bajaj Capital

    Reduction in TER and ban on upfront commission will affect retail investors. In my view, there is a big difference in servicing retail clients and HNIs. Though you can wait for the payoff if the ticket size is large, most distributors would end up incurring costs to service small ticket investors. I am afraid that the decision will leave retail investors unserved. The MFAC sub-committee could have involved distributors to understand needs and aspirations of retail investors. I think the move would go against the spirit and intention of the regulator to safeguard the interest of retail investors.

    Distributors focussing on SIP book will have to wait long to create some wealth out of distribution business. I believe the breakeven point in building SIP book would now increase from 5 years to 7 years.

    Also, the move will benefit small sized schemes and emerging AMCs. In addition, there will be a shift to other financial products such as PMS, AIFs and ULIPs.

    Kailash Kulkarni, CEO, L&T Mutual Fund and Vice Chairman, AMFI

    When SEBI banned entry load in 2009, everyone was talking about the end of distribution industry. However, distributors emerged more strongly after that. Over the last 15 years, we have seen distributors dealing with these challenges effectively. Though there will be a kneejerk reaction, things will settle down with time.

    For AMCs, large sized funds cannot charge much. There will be impact on earnings. I can say that just like revenue per customer has come down for telecom operators; AMCs and distributors will have to face a similar situation in the mutual fund industry. However, if we focus on increasing the customer base from 2 crore to 5 crore or may be 10 crore in the next five years, there will be enough on everyone’s plate.

    Another thing we need to look at is the date of implementation of these proposals. In addition, SEBI has said that they will consult the industry before finalizing B30 rules. These two factors will have a greater impact on the business.

    Suresh Sadagopan of Ladder7 Advisories

    There may be some short-term dip in revenues for both mutual funds and advisors. However, these measures are likely to be positive for the industry over the long term. If you look at historical data, there were similar doomsday predictions post SEBI’s entry load ban in 2009. While the industry experienced short –term consolidation post the ban, today it has quadrupled in size.

    I urge everyone to remember that our industry stands for the benefit of investors and not for profitability of fund houses and advisors. While there may a short-term blip in earnings, as the investor benefits they will invest in mutual funds in large numbers. Thus, despite lower per unit earning, the industry and advisors will benefit from higher volumes.

    Satheesh Krishnamurthy - SVP & Head - Affluent Business (Wealth Management & Private Banking) Axis Bank India

    The MF distribution industry is still at a nascent stage. Ideally, fund houses should absorb the cost as they have economies of scale. In case the AMCs pass on the cost to distributors then impact will depend on the size of the player. Larger players like distributors and advisors with a sizeable book will adjust to the new economics of lower commission but it will adversely affect the business model of smaller IFAs.

    Dhairyasheel Patil, President, PIFAA

    The all trail model will make the cost of acquisition of small clients unviable. It will lead the advisors to focus on Rs.10,000+ SIPs category of clients, which will have a negative impact overall on mutual fund penetration. Logically, no one would look at micro SIPs of Rs.500 and Rs.1000.

    Moreover, it will increase the break-even point for advisors starting their business. Where earlier it used to take 5-6 years for the advisors to breakeven, now it will take nearly a decade to make some money in this profession.

    Akhil Chaturvedi, EVP - Head Sales Motilal Oswal Mutual Fund

    The ban on upfront commissions will create level-playing field in the mutual fund industry. "I believe the move will make the mutual fund landscape fair and competitive for all participants.  AMCs will now have to create edge in terms of value addition, superior performances and differentiating factors that can ensure they remain attractive to advisor," he added.

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    22 Comments
    Anuj kumar · 5 years ago `
    Expenses increases day by day n income goes down. What a bull shit coincidence in my veiws. All sebi paneles persons should be work witout any remuneration. Then cost will be more reduce.
    Shubham Deep · 5 years ago
    Absolutely right..
    Reply
    Manoj · 5 years ago `
    SEBI reduce distributer commission 3 time in last 6 months I don't think so small distributer work in this industry so long bcoz day by expenses also hike like petrol how can they stay and do better job
    Goutam · 5 years ago
    Is it sebi's last bite? I don't think so.
    Reply
    L . ASHOK · 5 years ago `
    Experts tell that in 2009 at the time of entry load ban and after senario. One thing you must understand at that time AMCs gave the upfront commisson only from the entry load what they charged. So after banning all have the problem. But if you notice after that we get more than that what we get before ban. But the scenario here is fully changed. Now the upfront commission is fully abolished. Then in which title they will pay. Also all AMCs are against medium and small sized distributors. Also they want to popularise the direct mode. So we can't expect much from AMC's like after ban. In insurance industry, the insurance companies are for agents. But in mutual fund industry nobody is bothered about us. If the same schene continues all of us will go behind to promote ULIP policies. Because it is easy to do, by showing plus and minus of longterm capital gain tax. Now already wealth managers are doing that and we have to follow their footstep.
    Alok Agrawal · 5 years ago `
    Remove all exit loads.
    Indrajit Sarkar · 5 years ago
    All exit load remove for liquidity and Investor benefits
    Reply
    mahesh shaha · 5 years ago `
    IT IS ONLY AGAINST DEMOCRACY.
    Bichitra Biswas · 5 years ago `
    Whenever there is any move to reduce cost of AMC’s , the AMCs do the same by curtailing only the brokerage and not other cost like their advertising cost , their staff salary or the floor cost. The SEBI should look into that matter. I also think with this current move by SEBI a tendency will be seen to suggest small sized low performing funds to the client to get more commission due to low TER.
    Prashant · 5 years ago `
    What is misselling? It is nothing but wrong product sold to investor. SEBI says closed ended funds are bad investment products but allows them to be manufactured and marketed also they legitimised misselling by saying that fund houses whose funds don't perform will not be allowed to bring new closed ended schemes also direct schemes are missold the most because it is shown as cost saving and that is the only thing it saves also only by demeaning distributors direct schemes are sold to everyone. This means SEBI themselves are misselling.
    Lakshminarayanan Kumaar · 5 years ago `
    Post yday's move, we should urge SEBI/AMFI/AMCs to fix cost of direct plans. We can no longer subsidise.
    Manish · 5 years ago `
    When big players want to enter the market they try to destroy the smaller players. Job creation and Entrepreneur ship seems like a joke. In direct plans there will be more complaints from investors as there will be no one to guide them. Remember both mutual funds and Insurance are never brought they are always sold. Even the cost of enrollment and renewals are more than average earning of new entrants.
    Arpit Nagar · 5 years ago `
    I believe this is the first industry which in many ways try to diminish the income of distribution fraternity day by day and comes out with new rules and regulations every week or every month.
    Vishal Rastogi · 5 years ago `
    It seems the regulation is more concern on distributors income than in other more imp. departments.......Black days for IFA's, Pink days for ND's, Rose days for AMC's (Smaller) & Lotus days for Investor's .........
    SHASHIDHARA S R · 5 years ago `
    MODI GOVERNMENT TO GIVE FIXED SALARY OF 1lkh per month to all mf distributors,and free 100litres petrol/deisel/free conveyance free internet in metro suburbs,talks about skill development /self employment,first remove all products missold by insurance agents 26lkhs as investment product.mutual fund distribution is not a social service to dodge with commissions.
    RANJAN · 5 years ago `
    If SEBI IS SO CONCERNED ABOUT INVESTORS THEN WHY NOT TAKEN STEPS TO REMOVE EXIT LOADS
    Samrat patil · 5 years ago `
    The main point is that the biggest AUM IFA's are already moved to full trail model. They are receiving more trail commission than small AUM IFA's. From the AMC's so this measure from SEBI is only going to hit the small and new IFA'S. The well settled IFA and AMC are not having any troubles from this. This is only a measure by SEBI to set a MONOPOLY.
    SHAME, SHAME, SHAME
    Samrat patil · 5 years ago `
    The main point is that the biggest AUM IFA's are already moved to full trail model. They are receiving more trail commission than small AUM IFA's. From the AMC's so this measure from SEBI is only going to hit the small and new IFA'S. The well settled IFA and AMC are not having any troubles from this. This is only a measure by SEBI to set a MONOPOLY.
    SHAME, SHAME, SHAME
    Nilendra n chakraborty · 5 years ago `
    Why sebi is so worried for amcs better to think positiveway for distributors
    Pramod Kumar shukla · 5 years ago `
    208017
    RAGHUVEER · 5 years ago `
    The reduction in TER and removal of upfont commission proposal has got one hitch which says the commision should be charged to investment amount and not on AMC book. Then how it will benifit the Investor which SEBI Claims every time. It is the AMC who get benifit. The removal of upfront commission is also benifit the AMC as the upfront commission was invloved a huge advance cash flow. Noone analyse internal benifit. On the outside it is shown that the Investor benifits, but in reality it is different ball game
    gopal · 5 years ago `
    Gadhe ko Ghoda banougi to aisai hoga..... All IFA giving business to big AMC , Now they are become Ghoda from Gadha.They are killing IFA s now.
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