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  • MF News SEBI may take time to finalize ‘fee vs commission’ issue

    SEBI may take time to finalize ‘fee vs commission’ issue

    The market regulator has been evaluating global advisory practices to understand the implications of the proposed RIA regulations in India.
    Nishant Patnaik Oct 4, 2017

    SEBI may take some more time to finalize RIA regulations. In fact, the market regulator has been evaluating global practices in the advisory business before finalizing the RIA regulations.

    While speaking at the fourth Mint Mutual Fund Conclave held recently in Mumbai, G Mahalingam, Whole Time Member, SEBI said, “There are plenty of questions on fee vs commission. In fact, SEBI had to come out with the consultation paper on RIA regulations twice. Because the subject is complex and investors’ interest is at stake, this is taking a little more time. We are actually studying what is happening in other jurisdictions. UK, for example, has come out with the report on fee vs commission and they have clearly put forth the impact of this shift. We are closely looking at it and seeing what fits best for India.”

    Mahalingam was signalling to UK’s Retail Distribution Review (RDR) report conducted to review the impact of segregation of advised (commission) and non-advised portfolios (direct). Cafemutual has a copy of the report.

    The report found that the trust and value that advised respondents place in their relationship with a financial adviser suggest that the market for regulated financial advice will remain strong.

    The report further said, “There has been a small shift from advised to non-advised channels but a greater move from non-advised to advised channels. However, the advised or non-advised activity could be in relation to a product purchase, consideration or other activity not relating to a new product. Use of advised or non-advised channels in the future is likely to be heavily impacted by the value of the investment, the purpose of the investment and the products likely to be purchased.”

    This is in wake of SEBI’s consultation paper on investment advisor in which it has proposed to segregate fee-based advisors and distributors who receive commission from AMCs.

    A few days back, the market regulator had reportedly asked CFA Institute India to prepare a report on global trends on advisory business.

     

     

     

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    10 Comments
    B BALAJE · 6 years ago `
    SEBI and AMFI introducing RIA failure one.Boards are following foreign countries rules.They
    must consider welfare of Retail investors and IFA"s
    Vanitha C K · 6 years ago `
    Am not against RIA. But wonder whether average Indian would pay a reasonable fee.Why the revenues of financial doctors publicised and most spoken? Also wonder why none of the bodies talks of cost reduction in the processes. Why don't they centralise KYC, why don't they coordinate within themselves?still the same ckyc is to be filed for demat,again separately for mfs , again every fd or bond needs their kyc.is it all not waste of stationery ? Why fatca or Aadhaar mapping is to be updated with 5 RTAS separately ? Why it's not centralised ? Why Aadhaar was niradhar for long and still not a common ID like other countries? Are there answers. Also can an investment product be sold along with vegetables,fruits? Is it a proper way ?we need to bring professionalism through professionals. Is it not right ?
    Kamal Manocha · 6 years ago `
    Who the hell says that direct means non advised. When direct was launched, same day SEBI also launched advisory guidelines. There is no debate on doing it yourself vs advisory. Advisory is absolutely imp.

    Issue is hidden commission is not right as that brings a bias. It should be replaced with upfront fee.

    Only fee based model can bring in right form of competition.

    If SEBI hasn't still understood the issue, god help investors..
    Prashant · 6 years ago
    You are fooling the investors by charging fees and selling direct plans both because the investir actually fails to calculate the actual cost involved in the entire process. Also in case of regular he or she knows the total charges involved. Any which ways we do not give wtong products or missell to gain more money which you can brcause we will never come yo know wgich AMC has given you freebies to promote their schemes. So RIA is a failure
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    Ganesh Kumar · 6 years ago `
    RIA is a failed idea which shall be scrapped altogether. it failed to catch-up miserably even after 5 years of its adventurous launch.
    Murthy · 6 years ago `
    Basic understanding is missing, a person can advise only after clearing AMFI examination. The reason is only a qualified person is capable of advising. Now a new investor who had no knowledge of the market how is he eligible to go for direct plans.Are the Law makers making note of this.
    Surendra naik · 6 years ago `
    Unable to understand what this note wants to convey.my humble submission is stop doing the experiments with industry.on the one hand regulator and industry recognise the efforts of distributors in reaching the town C and town D investors.on the other hand talking about R I A Is redeculous.Still in smaller towns mf is a push product .ironically we distributors make financial planning for clients but can't do our own financial planning as we don't know what regulation will be imposed tomorrow.stop doing it.what ever changes the regulator wants to do should keep two things in mind .one make special provisions for B15 cities.secondly once any change is made stick to it for at least 3 to5 years.Just to give some predictability for distributors regarding his earnings.
    S.Mohan · 6 years ago `
    SEBI and AMFI are keen on killing the golden goose that lays the eggs. Too many ill advised changes being brought out with no thought. Leave the IFAs alone. They are the backbone of whatever AMCs have achieved. Just look at the Nos. and the growth story; it is only and only due to the efforts of the IFAs. It does matter to an Investor to the kind of advise given by the IFA. As it is ever since AMFI and SEBI have started interferring in the Mutual Fund industry there have been a plethora of unwanted changes. While the absolute share has gone up but many Banks who are also promoters of a majority of the MFs in India have been cross selling/misselling MF schemes to the account holders thereby hitting the IFA community below the belt.
    Be that as it may, the Fund houses pay out commission out of the expenses on which SEBI has mandated the upper limit on the expenses. Thus, the changes in "Fee vs Commission" is not called for at all.
    Thirdly, GST - When during the Service Tax regime the same was borne by AMCs then why not GST? Why penalise IFAs. Today I get 18% less on the business I generate for AMCs and for AMCs with all the set offs (read Input Tax Credit-ITC), it is almost neutral for them.
    Last but not the least involve IFAs and IFA bodies in your discussion. Do not push it on us.
    Prashant · 6 years ago `
    I fail to understand why are we paying such hefty salaries to SEBI staff since they just sit in A/C cabins and look around the world for bringing in regulations. We can do it ourselves and save a lot of money in it which SEBI says should be the most important part of investing. Will the situations and people mindsets and the products offered be same in UK and India? If not than why copy them? SEBI staff does not want to go on ground and do an extensive survey of the ground reality and situations and want to bring foreign regulations is malafide in nature. If UK brings a regulationbit wil be for their people's benefit not ours so why replicate them? And if there has been a dlight sgift from afvisory to non-advisory why not study that? SEBI advisory committee also told that thay should not bring fee based only regulation bit SEBI still wants to bring it because either they want to prove that RIA model is not a failure and save their faces or they want to benefit someone wgich is malafide in nature.
    Mohan Jangid · 6 years ago `
    SEBI seems to be little confused state of situations. Here are some facts to be considered.
    1. Cut cost by making uniform MF Application

    2. Use of CKYC across all financial sectors

    3. Do not copy regulations of foreign country.

    4. Make regulations based on our country's reality.

    5. Do not consider few investors issue only at the cost of large medium and small investors.

    6. Make RIA model as parallel instead of destroying IFA.

    7. Think to develop MF industry by increasing confidence both in IFA and RIA

    8. Create more Completion among IFA and RIA to create sound and healthy mutual fund industry to create wealth for investor

    9. We are the youngest country in the world as on date and old age population will be explosively high after 15-20 years. So they need IFA more than RIA in numbers. So SEBI has to play very vital role to play for upliftment of socio economics of medium and small investors
    10. SEBI needs to think what majority of population actually needs instead of making regulation based on few assumptions

    11. Think very deeply what investors needs beyond 6-7 metros.

    Once against I shall just say come out with populous regulations empowering both RIA and IFA instead of watering one at the cost of other one.


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