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  • MF News TER of regular plans comes down post ban on upfront commission

    TER of regular plans comes down post ban on upfront commission

    In a few instances, the difference between TER structure before and after implementation of ban on upfront commission is 30 bps.
    Nishant Patnaik Oct 26, 2018

    An analysis of the latest TER structure published on AMCs website shows that TER of all regular plans have come down drastically. In fact, in a few instances, the cost of the regular plan of a fund has come down to 0.30% largely because of reduced GST component.

    We spoke to a few operational experts and fund officials to understand the reason for this.

    Jimmy Patel, CEO, Quantum Mutual Fund pointed out that SEBI has asked fund houses to manage the fund expenses from the scheme itself. “Simply put, fund houses cannot spill over the cost from their AMC book. Also, there will be no fungibility as fund houses will have to disclose break up of their expenses such as management fee and other expenses separately.”

    Swarup Mohanty, CEO, Mirae Asset believes that the reduction in GST component is due to introduction of break ups. “Earlier, fund houses were allowed to do fungibility i.e. disclosing the base TER without giving segregation of various expenses. Now, with this going away, fund houses can charge GST component in management fees only instead of the entire cost.”

    Giving an example, a senior operation officer of a large fund house said if a scheme had an expense ratio of 2.50%, the scheme used to charge GST on 2% (excluding distribution expenses of 0.5%) irrespective of actual management fees. However, now fund houses can charge GST only on fund management fees i.e. if management fees is 1.5% then the GST will be charged on 1.5% instead of 2% earlier.

    This has come in the wake of SEBI circular in which the market regulator has asked fund houses to disclose investment and advisory fees and other expenses along with the gross commission of distributors with immediate effect. With this, the half-yearly consolidated account statement (CAS) will now have two more columns or break up for the disclosure of management fees and other expenses along with the gross commission paid to distributors.

    In the circular, SEBI said, “The scheme’s average total expense ratio (in percentage terms) along with  the  break  up  between investment  and  advisory  fees,  commission  paid  to  the distributor and other  expenses  for  the  period  for  each  scheme’s  applicable plan  (regular  or  direct  or  both)  where  the  concerned  investor  has  actually  invested in.”

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    21 Comments
    K v raghupathi · 5 years ago `
    Let any authority in the MF industry through light on why and how fund houses can charge GST on fund management fee for managing the fund ,despite performance far below the bench mark return and negative return and no GST on brokerage for the money the distributors bring in to you to manage the same.

    SEBI must make us to understand how both services are different for applicability of GST or correct the AMCs to pay us the GST on brokerage we are elegible or bar them from charging GST on fund management fee beyond TER.
    James bond · 5 years ago
    There is GST on Brokerage bro, only reverse charge mechanism is on hold and brokers are required to pay GST as per their tax liability
    KV RAGHUPATHI · 5 years ago
    Dear friend,
    What I mean in the comment is that AMCs are taking away GST on fund management fee Ie., RS 100 fee and Rs 18 GST Rs 118 is charged to NAV whereas if we were paid RS 100 is inclusive of GST.
    Reply
    Jk · 5 years ago `
    Why only IFA will be the victimized by the Regulator ????????

    Why not others like Insurance,Doctors & Others industries Mediators...???????
    We should make case file to Court against .......
    Ranjan · 5 years ago
    I repeatedly expressed that FIFA Should file a petition in SC to get justice. But no one come forward. SEBI's recent regulation can only be stayed by Supreme court
    James Bond · 5 years ago
    FiFA Members are paid Stooges...
    Vinay · 5 years ago
    Show the proof. Don't just make fake allegations
    Neeraj Tiwari · 5 years ago
    Absolutely right FIFA should come forward
    Reply
    Arvind Navare · 5 years ago `
    Every time IFAs are target at the cost of others since we don't represent strongly
    Neeraj wagh · 5 years ago
    That’s why we all IFA’s should join FIFA...
    Reply
    Abhishek jain · 5 years ago `
    Joining FIFA what will happen what FIFA have done till have seen ....so it's useless
    DEVESH ARVIND SURATKAR · 5 years ago `
    Who will audited SEBI as they understand what they did correct? Today direct investors also in probe why my investment not getting return after watching Ads mutual fund sahi hai since Jan 2018 in mid n small cap. Now they approach to senior Advisor. Apart when the launch funds they were know the facts. Why suddenly harsh with advisor community. See the truth how the industry growing with the support channels. I am sure this step to cut legs of advisor will hampers the growth industry and GDP. IRDA come with same but LIC rejected the proposal. May be SEBI chair person appointed for limited period but In industry lot of advisor working since inception. Have they take some view on this. In long runs may some fund house close business. Really worried part is to show some to finance ministry and getting award or rewards from Government is practically good. But the facts in long runs hampers the business. As a Indian I want fatcual fact to be addressed SEBI. I am not concerned with my brokerage. But at large all small attached hands will soon bye bye Industry. May SEBI responsible for unemployment , cracked the Business modules and will effect to nation levels. I am engaged since 1990 seen the up and down but currently happening is cruel steps. Even after no guarantee to Investors. As Return are ruining. The challenge is even odd situations minimum returns required. SEBI control failed. I think SEBI should be audited.
    Prashant · 5 years ago `
    Divided we fall. I have been shouting my lungs out saying this but all in vain.
    vikas · 5 years ago `
    can anyone please explain as most of the RMs are servicing direct clients, then why are their salaries being charged to the full account, it along with the marketing expense being paid to all direct portals
    should be charged to direct
    manoj Singhal · 5 years ago `
    Sir, Sebi chairman told in his last meeting that a large fund house had pocketed a huge amount of profit
    which is to be banned and in this refrence the expenses of AMC c are to be capped not the distributors
    commission but AMFI peoples are those who are large fund houses and make rules as they wish and in the the interest of AMC c not in favour of distributors.
    Neeraj Tiwari · 5 years ago `
    IFA OF METRO CITY &OTHER PARTS OF COUNTRY SHOULD UNITED AND FILE A CASE A AGAINST SEBI & AMC ,COST WILL AFFORD SOME IFA I THINK 25 OR 50 IFA ARE ENOUGH .THOSE ARE AGREE WITH US. PLEASE call ???? 9434295634 i am ready to file a case
    Ashoke Kumar Basu · 5 years ago
    Welcome step atleast by one among all. I am agreeing with you but I am from Kolkata & if you are not from my town I may not be able to be present physically with you but I am ready to share per head cost...
    Reply
    Rajesh · 5 years ago `
    My simple view is that I agree with what SEBI intends to do. SEBI basically wants to cut down the investment cost for investors, this is a welcome step. But the question is that how much % salaries of top executives of these AMCs have gone down in 2018 to support the cost reduction idea of SEBI??

    Rather salaries, perquisites, bonuses, foreign trips of all these executives are higher in 2018 as compared to 2017 & just after 6 months i.e. in April 2019 it will be further hiked. All these hikes every year comes from the pocket of investors only. So instead of crying on reduction in commission, we should raise our voice to reduce the pay package of all these executives, their official travel should be only by train/bus instead of costly flights to benefit investors. AMC s should close all their branch offices to cut down on rent, electricity & employees cost t benefit investors. We have online portals for investment so no need of spending lacs & lacs every month by these companies for running branches in every city.

    AFTER ALL WE ALL WANT THE BENEFIT OF INVESTORS. SO THESE AMCs SHOULD CLOSE ALL OF THEIR OFFICES FOR THE BENEFIT OF INVESTORS
    Subramanian Gomathinayagam · 5 years ago `
    Any salary/brokerage/commission cannot postpone/future payment is totally illegal.becuse no body
    can't perdition/restrictions the investment will upholds in the same folio. Then upfront commission was. Totally ban by SEBI TER -- formula.
    SEBI. Violation of labour law
    So all IFA sue to sebi
    tdevendra · 5 years ago `
    sebi duty is rob the peter and pay to peter only. last 4 years it is torrid time for distribution industry especially with mf related. it is now more chaotic without directions. the regulators directions are contradicting its own principles, while the amc"s fund managers salaries have increased by leaps and bounds, salary of regulator not questioned he want distributors to be honest transparent. further there is no law to audit amcs, regulator salaries, commissions, perks are beyond question. they are a law unto themselves. all rules, taxations, missellings, violations are apportioned to only distribution community only, while banks, miss sell there is no code of conduct. how come banks without arn qualified person sell mutual funds, fundamentally it is a violation of ethics, morals of the amfi, amc, sebi regulator. god bless regulator

    debabrata · 5 years ago `
    STOP SELLING FOR NEXT ONE OR TWO MONTHS, REJECT ANY SEMINAR ,CANCALL, MEETING, PARTY WITH ANY OF AMC PERSONAL AND TOLD DIRECT INVESTOR TO MEET SEBI OFFICIAL FOR ANY KIND OF SERVICING.........NEXT SEE WHAT HAPPEND.
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