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  • MF News Most fund houses offer attractive trail commission

    Most fund houses offer attractive trail commission

    An analysis of commission payout structure of at least nine fund houses shows that most fund houses have been incentivizing their distributors with attractive trail commission.
    Nishant Patnaik Nov 19, 2018

    There is a good news for distributors. Most fund houses have been offering attractive trail commission to distributors post ban of upfront commission.

    In fact, a few fund houses have been offering trail commission of 1.40% in the first, second and third year to distributors.

    A Mumbai distributor requesting anonymity said that some large and mid-sized fund houses have been offering attractive rates to their select distributors.

    Seconding his view, a CEO of an emerging fund house said, “Fund houses have revised their trail commission structure post ban on upfront commission. Many of them have been offering attractive commission to an extent of 1.65% in a few schemes to select distributors. However, this commission structure is until the time SEBI introduces TER slabs. Distributors should expect a cut of at least 0.25% post introduction of TER slabs.”

    In a communication sent to distributors, a large fund house said, “We may change the rates of commission in case of change in regulations/load structure/expense ratio and any other factors which have an impact on such payments. Such change would be applicable for remaining SIP/STP installments also.”

    Fund houses calculate trail commission from the date of the allotment until the end of the first year of investment or till the investor stays invested in the scheme on pro-rata basis. They take the average of NAV over this period to calculate your trail commission.

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    60 Comments
    Rakesh Lahori · 5 years ago `
    Dear Nishant Patnaik,

    Can you share the commission structures of atleast 9 AMCs which are giving trail commission of atleast 1.65% for first three years. I am working as an IFA for last 10 years and I could not find even one AMC giving that kind of commission. The highest commission offered to me is 1% Trial.

    Why are companies like Cafemutual & Moneylife behind distributors whose income has been reduced drastically in last few years due to No Entry Load, GST Implications & TER Reduction.

    If the AUM of MF Industries has increased multi-fold, It has happened due to Distributors like us. If the commission structures reduces further, we would be unable to cater our clients and will be forced to switching business.

    Thanks & Regards,

    Rakesh Lahori
    sachin · 5 years ago
    Mr. Nishant why you are not replying a legitimate question
    GURUNATHAGOPAL · 5 years ago
    Why you invite SEBI for a free lunch.
    And adding more oil to fire.
    Reply
    Sunil bhatia · 5 years ago `
    Can you help me with companies giving trail of 1.65% and also companies doing upward revision of trail after ban on upfront.
    ratan · 5 years ago `
    please share the name of atleast 5 AMCs which are giving trail commission of atleast 1.65%or even 1.25% for first three years.

    any how i dont like to to bussiness in more compalies

    in some case trail has come to 0.5 only that to without upfrount
    Vishhal Malhotra · 5 years ago `
    All small AMC'S giving highest trail commissions for example Baroda, DHFL, Essel and Taurus etc.
    Sunil S vaidya · 5 years ago `
    Yes Nishant . . .
    Just share those names . . . would love to know those AMCs . What wrong have ifas committed . . . . Sirf Hawa me baate karo aur hame villain banao sabhi ki nazar me . ????????????
    Jigna R Parmar · 5 years ago `
    Mr. Nishant Patnaik does not answer when it comes to questions. These editors can ask questions to anyone but does now know how to answer any questions. I have been reading Cafemutual articles from almost one year. I have not seen Mr. Nishant Patnaik answering any one question also till now.

    He just shows the perfect point to hit on IFAs and his headline of the article would be so nicely designed that it will attract the eyes of the regulator straight away.

    P.S. to Cafemutual, Stop publishing articles with such headlines. You are just seeing one side of the grass and speaking. Come on field and sell some SIPs in a period. I bet you will fail.

    Thanks
    Jainam shah · 5 years ago `
    CafeMutual Team,

    That 1.40% trail commission either offered by lower AMC which is falling after 10th number or in top 10 AMC they are offering to that person whose AUM an d market share are more than 30% to their AMC or having 100 cr + AUM..

    So don't write this things in general manner it hurts to smaller or mediocre IFA..and giving false image to client for the commission..
    kshitija · 5 years ago `
    I think there is paucity of new ideas to write article on. I am here from 15 years, never got the rate mentioned of 1.4% and 1.65%. trail. In a way you gives clues to industry and SEBI to reduce/tighten further on false and fake news items. Kindly disclose the structures and AMCs mentioned.
    Dr C Venkatesh · 5 years ago `
    Mr Nishanth, I endorse the comments above. Pl do not mislead the IFA's & Investors as well. The withdrawal of upfront commission is detrimental to growth of Mutual Funds. ????????????
    Manish · 5 years ago `
    Many New Distributors who are getting only 0.70% Trail , why dont you share that. so that investors also know that how Distributors are working hard to earn their Bread.
    ?atan saha · 5 years ago `
    I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH TAIL COMMISION PROVIDING TOP 10 AMCS
    Daljit Singh · 5 years ago `
    Mr Nishant,
    Please give reply this question as my clients are saying that we are getting huge commissions which is not true. Since you have published this report you will have to name and conditions under which they are offering these rates. Otherwise I may be forced to take legal action also as it’s a matter of principles and my image with my clients. I give you 24 hours on that.
    Regards
    Daljit
    Amit · 5 years ago `
    This is a biased article and creating an impression that IFAs are still getting higher brokerage. Tomorrow SEBI will say there is further scope of reducing the TER and AMCs will happily follow.

    Most of the AMCs are giving trail of around 60 to 75 paisa.
    Manish · 5 years ago `
    Hi Nishant sir,

    Kindly reply. I also haven't found any AMC's offering lucrative commissions.
    Manoj chopra · 5 years ago
    Uti is giving 1.40, kotak 1.5 in first year and tata too is 1.4
    Reply
    Nishant Patnaik · 5 years ago `
    Dear IFA friends,

    Please note that Cafemutual stands for distributors. The sole purpose of each article is to keep you updated on the latest trends in the industry that matters to you.

    On Commission structure, the article clearly states that some fund houses have been offerings such commission structures on selected schemes to their selected distributors.

    Also, if you would like to see exact trail commission, the best way is to compare TER of October 21 and TER as of today. The difference is your trail commission.
    Pragna pansuriya · 5 years ago `
    Mr. Nishant sir,

    I working in this industry last 16 years.
    Any AMC not giving more then 1%

    You are request to give me AMC name who give more then 1%

    Also every times regulation change like past customer who investment in 2005 that time kyc not required. Now commission stop due to kyc not resistered.
    How can we do business ?
    I also find other business with This business.
    Sani · 5 years ago `
    It looks these people are paid by Robodistributors so that IFA's will close down and robodistributors can become IFA's
    sani · 5 years ago `
    Your headlines says most fund houses pays 1.65%. Now you says some fund houses and some schemes. Do not mislead. You are looking for TRP's increase like TV Channels. Be impartial. Do not write some nonsense to attract attention
    Nishant Patnaik · 5 years ago
    Please go through the story. A CEO of a fund house has been quoted.
    Prashant · 5 years ago
    Are you supposed to quote the CEOs only or are you supposed to do your homework properly before writing these articles. In fact you should be writing that the CEO is lying. Write the truth. Also when you say TER on 21st October and TER today's difference is our trail is a completely wrong method to derive our brokerage. When you start writing articles please consult us as well. Please don't behave like SEBI who decides everything for us without consulting us and only consulting CEOs of fund houses who by the way will only wants to make profits for themselves. We can and will happily share our brokerage chart with you and then i am sure you will apologize and write correct and accurate article on this. The way everyone has been harsh on us I will be harsh on you and cafemutaul and ask them and you whose payroll are you on?
    Reply
    Ravi · 5 years ago `
    Mr. Nishant Patnaik,

    I think you are showing half picture.... earlier I was getting .80% uf+.80% trail from all big amcs but after all trail model all big Amc have reduce commission between .80% to 1.2% all trail.

    So there is 30 to 50% loss in my commission and not a single big Amc is offering 1.4% commission.

    You have written National Distributors commission structure by mistake in ifa's

    So please correct and show real picture.
    Divyeshbhai J. Makani · 5 years ago `
    Most fund houses offer attractive trail commission this is your headlines which total bias views if the views is unbiased try for poll of MFDs on cafemutual u realise feel where u were wrong. Finger tips AMC gives 1.40‰ perpectual trail when you writing in public domain you must see mass views. Your views applicable to BiG MFDs only. So my earnest request don't publish such article which reprrests wrong picture in sebi's and public eyes when u says u stands for distributor be with entire MFD fraternity and write with large base view. God Bless You
    Rakesh Jakher · 5 years ago `
    Mr. Patnaik, The wearer know where the shoe is pinches. So request u to don’t mislead the investors and try to boost the moral of IFAs.Thanks u
    Msdhavi Lanka · 5 years ago `
    This is a wrong presentation of the current picture to the investors. To my knowledge I have not seen any AMC giving 1.65% trail commission per year. It is hardly 1.00% only. Why such misleading articles to spread the misleading info among the investors...
    Vinod Kumar Mangal · 5 years ago `
    Mr.Patnaik,
    Please don't write article only for TRP.
    Show actual picture of IFA's Trail Commission Structure. Please don't give fake news. This is considered to CafeMutual also
    Vinod Kumar Mangal · 5 years ago `
    Mr.Patnaik,
    Please don't write article only for TRP.
    Show actual picture of IFA's Trail Commission Structure. Please don't give fake news. This is considered to CafeMutual also
    Manish Hathi · 5 years ago `
    It's absolutely waste of time of cafemutual as well as IFAs. Commissions of ordinary distributors have reached almost the lowest level. Sir , kindly start one more website cafeinsurance.com. please do bring to the notice of the people what commissions they are earning. It will be an invaluable service to the society when good honest people like you will be successful in reducing their commissions.
    Anirban Dhar · 5 years ago
    What Nishant has written is absolutely correct, there are many AMCs which offer good commission like LIC Mutual Fund, Edelwiss MF etc.
    Reply
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