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  • MF News SEBI reportedly asks MFs to put folios carrying withheld commission under direct plan

    SEBI reportedly asks MFs to put folios carrying withheld commission under direct plan

    SEBI’s intent is simple, if fund houses are not paying commission to distributors then why are they charging investors, say fund officials.
    Nishant Patnaik Jun 2, 2019

    During the current ongoing SEBI audit, the market regulator has reportedly asked a few AMCs to put folios with withheld commission under direct plan, confirmed three MF officials.

    A CEO requesting anonymity who received such a query said that the intention of SEBI is simple: if fund houses are not paying commission to their distributors then why are they charging investors.

    He, however, said that such a switch is impossible. “We have written to SEBI that such a switch is not possible in the MF industry. Firstly, fund houses will have to take a consent from an investor to switch his folio from regular plan to direct plan. Finally, such a switch is considered as redemption and reinvestment and it would incur capital gain tax.”

    Another official told Cafemutual that SEBI wants to ensure that investors do not end up paying more. “We have been asked why we can’t put folios having withheld commission in direct plan. We have responded to SEBI that there is a commercial arrangement between AMCs and distributors which cannot be breached. However, SEBI is yet to come back to us on this.”

    AMCs have withheld commission due to a number of reasons such as claw back of commission, failed transaction, incomplete KYC and so on. Also, a few distributors sell schemes of fund houses without empanelment. In such a scenario, AMCs withhold commission and ask distributors to get empanelled with them to get their commission.

    It is pertinent to mention here that SEBI had given a three-month window ending on May 21, 2019 to fund houses to pay withheld commission to distributors till May 21, 2019. Although AMFI has reportedly sought SEBI clarification if this three-month window is applicable on assets with incomplete KYC, the circular in the current form states that AMCs cannot pay withheld commission after May 21, 2019.

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    17 Comments
    Alagappan · 5 years ago `
    The correct way they must put the money in a separate escrow account till kyc is done amc also should not take money the main purpose is kyc not done then u mean to say direct investors can hv Investment without kyc. This is absurd foooshness from the concerned officer
    Sanjay Nautiyal · 5 years ago `
    *AMCs have got No Circular From SEBI to forfeit the withheld commissions because of Non-KYC Compliance..*

    *If any AMC says so then ask them to show the copy of the Circular which states so..*

    *FIFA had made representation on this Non- KYC Compliance Withheld issue & thereafter AMFI had written to SEBI & By Far Regulator has not reverted on this..*
    Nishant Patnaik · 5 years ago
    Hi Sanjay,
    We have not mentioned anywhere that SEBI has issued a circular on this. This is a query that has reportedly come up from SEBI's audit.
    Nishant Patnaik · 5 years ago
    The circular which we have mentioned in the last paragraph is from SEBI to AMFI.
    Reply
    Sanjay Nautiyal · 5 years ago `
    Cafemutual is creating unnecessary noise...

    *Who knows : Cafe Mutual may be doing lobbying for top AMCs to forward their agenda ?*

    When there is no commission under Direct Plan..As if it is there then AMCs are in violation of SEBI Orders..

    Has SEBI asked to put folios having withheld commission in direct plan!! If so where is the copy of such Circular?

    Cafemutual article mentions in the end that, the circular in the current form states that AMCs cannot pay withheld commission after May 21, 2019. - Now, will they let us know where in the SEBIs Circular
    Nishant Patnaik · 5 years ago
    Cafemutual continues to be high on integrity and remains unbiased platform. Our sole objective is to keep the distributors updated on regulatory developments without taking any sides.
    Reply
    KUNDA KRISHNA · 5 years ago `
    AMC getting benefit always.


    THE WHAT IFA will do??
    Yogesh Laddha · 5 years ago `
    SEBI Career Opportunities.

    Waiting for the Day when SEBI Employees work without Pay !
    Stany Dsouza · 5 years ago `
    My com withheld for micro SIPs also. Their KYC was done without PAN. Now AMFI consider Micro KYC as non-kyc.
    chintan parikh · 5 years ago
    YES SAME HAPPEN WITH ME
    Reply
    Nagesh · 5 years ago `
    One technical issue raised, on conversion minor to major ...KYC has to update??? Ok minor hasn't done documents all well. Let the investment to stop SIP's rather, for SEBI let the investment to come , but don't pay commission to the adviser.


    Even, my concern is if KYC is not fulfilled , should adviser not give any service to the investor hereafter ? Or to charge on service.?
    P S NARAYANAN · 5 years ago `
    WRITE TO THE INVESTOR, STOP 'SIPS' OR REDEMPTION ,SWITCH, PAYMENT OF DIVIDEND IN CASE OF PAYOUT OR REINVESTMENT ETC TILL KYC ETC IS COMPLETED AND THEN PAY THE DISTRIBUTOR WHEN DONE. WE HAVE SWEATED TO EARN THE MONEY AND WHY SHOULD WE ONLY SUFFER. AFTER KYC ETC IS DONE, ALL ENJOY THE BENEFITS EXCEPT THE DISTRIBUTOR WHO HAS LOST COMMISSION FOREVER.WE ARE FOLLOWING UP AS WELL WITH CLIENTS.

    CONVERTING TO DIRECT IS TAKING AWAY THE CLIENT FROM US INDIRECTLY.

    THE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO GET THE KYC OR OTHER DETAILS COMPLETED AND NOT TO STOP EARNING FOR DISTRIBUTORS.HERE IT LOOKS ONLY DISTRIBUTORS WILL BEAR ALL LOSSES.
    Prakash Rao Bapat a · 5 years ago `
    mf business only attraction to distributor is its trail commission. It is perpetual in nature. When the first commission is released the distributor should be entitled to all benefits. Kyc is a rituals.
    If repayments is required ask the investor to be KYC complainant. Why you penalise unlawfully the distributor.
    Applications are accepted as per prevailing KYC systems. Later changes should not be a point to withheld, claw back the commission.
    Prashant · 5 years ago `
    If this is true than SEBI has exposed themselves by giving double whammy to AMCs. Of the investment stays in regular they can charge them high and keep the commissions to themselves and if it goes to direct than any which ways they will not have to give commissions so in both ways they make huge money. They are openly helping AMCs to maximise their profits. What I want to know is if they actually convert the investments into direct AMCs can still charge TER on them which means that KYC of investors are not important but KYC of investors having distributors are more important because AMCs can charge TER in full to assets where KYC is not done but they didn't want to and because of SEBI will not have to pay commissions on them. This means KYC is only distributor's responsibility and and AMCs can enjoy benefits of it is not done. This brings the most important question which is what is KYC done for? If it is for and to check if the money is not brought by any illegal manner or any criminal is not investing in these investments than this move by SEBI will actually help them to hide their identity because direct schemes can charge FULL TER on kyc noncompliant folios.

    SEBI has to be probed on not only this but also for the appointment of IMFI as SRO maliciously which supreme court struck down bit no detailed probe into why and how SEBI did it and so no punishment to anyone eventhough the rules are broken so there would be huge corruption in this entire episode.
    Rakesh Chhotalal Popat · 5 years ago `
    Nishantjee what if my client for which kyc is withheld dies due to unfortunate event ? Who will give services to his nominee sebi or Amc's ?
    Sudhir Kumar Singhal · 5 years ago `
    The malafide intentions of AMFI & AMCs are quite evident and clear as they want to by pass IFAs with intention of encouraging and promoting direct investments. To witheld the brokerage of IFAs for non KYC compliant folios. This is an example of suppressing the rights of IFAs, as all the investments in mutual funds are mobilised by IFAs as per the prevailing rules and regulations laid in by SEBI ( regulatory authority of mutual funds) at the time of making investments. So, how can AMFI or AMCs can deny rightful claim of brokerage of IFAs on non KYC compliant folios. This is simply cheating on the part of AMCs and a breach of contract between AMCs and IFAs. Yes, as per current rules and regulation no investment can be initiated without KYC compliance, but how present rules and regulations can be implemented with retrospective effect. Rather, AMFI and AMCs should freeze all the non KYC compliant folios with the instruction to their respective registrar's that no such folio will be redeemed without completion of KYC norms by the investor, like it is done in non compliant FATCA cases. AMFI and AMCs should follow the procedure for dormant accounts adopted by the banks as no withdrawal is allowed by the banks until KYC norms are completed. This will save the falling reputation of AMCs and help restoring the souring relations with IFAs.
    Manash Paul · 5 years ago `
    Earlier people used to invest in MF with Distributor but now people will trade in MF. More trading means more taxes & charges. Fund Managers will witness more redemption pressure & Investor will jump from this ship to that boat.
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