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  • MF News IFA associations demand uniform trail commission across old and new assets

    IFA associations demand uniform trail commission across old and new assets

    IFAs claim that while distributors get 80 bps trail commission on assets under advisory built after 2015, they get only 15 – 30 bps on assets mobilized before 2015.
    Nishant Patnaik Jun 11, 2019

    IFA bodies across the country such as Foundation of Independent Financial Advisors (FIFA), Independent Consultants and Advisors Association (ICAA) and MFD Universe have requested AMCs to level trail commission across old and new assets.

    While IFAs claim that they get close to 80 bps trail commission on assets mobilized after 2015, they get between 15 and 30 bps on assets built before 2015. These bodies believe that such a discrepancy in commission could encourage churning in the MF industry, which is not good for investors.

    Why this difference?

    In 2015, AMFI had issued a best practices circular on commission structure of distributors to create a level playing field across AMCs. While AMFI had put a cap of 1% on upfront commission, it asked AMCs not to do upward revision on existing trail brokerage. Before 2015, most AMCs paid upfront commission to distributors along with trail commission of 50 bps on an average.

    However, most distributors feel that this circular has become redundant after SEBI banned upfront commission in October 22, 2018.

    Later, AMCs reduced trail brokerage on assets of distributors twice due to reduction in TER in lieu of exit load and the recent TER cut. Since the trail commission on old assets was already close to 50 bps, the impact of these consecutive TER cuts is more acute on such assets.

    AMCs view

    The sales head of a large fund house requesting anonymity said that distributors should factor in upfront commission paid to them before 2015. He said, “We had a commercial arrangement based on business dynamics then. We have paid healthy upfront commission before 2015 along with trail brokerage and made our projections for future growth.”

    When asked if this would encourage churning, another sales head of top AMC said that this is easier said than done. He pointed out, “Majority of pending KYC cases are in old assets. Distributors will first need to complete KYC before executing any transaction on such assets. Secondly, churning is against the spirit of business and AMFI code of conduct. Finally, there would be problem with their due diligence if they churn.”

    IFA associations view

    IFA associations say that AMCs should negotiate commission structure face-to-face with distributors and find the middle ground.

    Associations say that SEBI norms say that the difference between the expense ratio of direct and regulator plans is the distribution commission. They said that the existing trail commission on new and old assets is much lower than the difference between the TER of regular plans and direct plans.

     

     

     

     

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    14 Comments
    Amit Shah · 5 years ago `
    Ha ha Distributors have no other work except to keep cribbing all the time. If they want now uniform trail commission, they should get the 15-30 bps across old and new assets! Sorts the whole issue out. What say?
    Prashant C Mansata · 5 years ago `
    Yes it is strictly needed,
    ANIL KUMAR · 5 years ago
    Due to continue reducing commission , New ARN holder survival issue.. Most of my friend already left out this business due to this... It will take 5-10 year for educate group of people & then one day .. one decision .. & all decision in favour of AMC .. down ARN holder moral support.. ARN holder no rights.. In india, financial education is poor level .. even 80% CA not aware .. why equity.. so don't expect form ordinary people ... We educate people & start with small amount as SIP 2K -10K ... We are not getting even cost money these 1-3 year... So don't' blame ARN holder.. if you think ARN earning good income, Pls take ARN code & work 2-3 year sir.
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    rajesh bhardwaj · 5 years ago `
    BAN THE DIRECT PLAN , WE ARE READY TO WORK 40-50 BPS
    Karuna · 5 years ago
    Ban the regular plan let all in uniform n let the investor get their returns all in their pocket.
    aNKIT CHOPRA · 5 years ago
    Dear Karuna,
    We respect your decision, But let's first take one small exam of the INVESTORS knowledge RELATED TO MARKET KNOWLEDGE ,Than its fare to decide whether direct to be Banned or Regular Scheme should be Banned!
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    rupesh mundhra · 5 years ago `
    Good thought
    anil · 5 years ago
    Dear sir, New ARN holder survival issue.. Most of my friend already left out this business due to this... It will take 5-10 year for educate group of people & then one day .. one decision .. & all decision in favour of AMC .. down ARN holder moral support.. ARN holder no rights.. In india, financial education is poor level .. even 80% CA not aware .. why equity.. so don't expect form ordinary people ... We educate people & start with small amount as SIP 2K -10K ... We are not getting even cost money these 1-3 year... So don't' blame ARN holder.. if you think ARN earning good income, Pls take ARN code & work 2-3 year sir.
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    Karuna · 5 years ago `
    Ban the regular plan let all in uniform n let the investor get their returns all in their pocket.
    Raj · 5 years ago
    And Karuna will provide services to every mutual fund investor free of cost ....Good initiative Karuna...m proud of you
    Jind · 5 years ago
    Hi Mr karuna u r not aware of our IFA pains and challenges . Don't play with our emotions.
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    Ashoke Kumar Basu · 5 years ago `
    Not 15 to 30 paise before 2015 Assets, rather 10 paise on 2015 Assets (SIPs) of HDFC AMC... ridiculous vanity of unrestrained autocracy...
    Sunil Kumar · 5 years ago `
    What ever difference in TER Between Direct or indirect should be paid to IFA OR BROKER COMPANY In that additional exp,xyz should not be added. Once the IFA Introduced client AMC SHOULD send mail or call or any promotional activity to switch client from backend....
    Rakesh Chhotalal Popat · 5 years ago `
    Commissions paid now is not from the assets of Amcs but at the cost of investor, who is Amc to decide how much to give commission to distributors on old or new assets? I think there should be a third-party appointed who in consultation with sebi should decide commission structure.
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