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  • MF News ‘Lower trail fees on old assets would encourage churning’

    ‘Lower trail fees on old assets would encourage churning’

    In an opinion poll run by Cafemutual, over 61% IFAs said that lower trail commission on assets acquired before 2015 would encourage churning in the MF industry.
    Nishant Patnaik Sep 13, 2019

    Majority of financial advisors believe that lower trail commission on assets acquired before 2015 would encourage churning in the MF industry, which is not good for MF investors.

    Post rationalization in TER, many IFAs claim that while they get close to 80 bps trail commission on assets mobilized after 2015, they get between 15 and 30 bps on assets built before 2015.

    ‘What would be the impact on lower trail commission on assets acquired before 2015?’ asked a poll run on Cafemutual.com.

    Close to 4100 IFAs participated in the opinion poll. Of these IFAs, 61% or 2502 IFAs feel that discrepancy in trail commission across assets acquired before and after 2015 would encourage churning in the MF industry.

    However, 1360 IFAs or 33% of the total respondents said that only a fraction of distributors would churn for better commission. They believe that the majority of IFAs will advise their clients to continue their investments.

    Just 220 or 5% distributors feel that this would have no impact of lower commission on mutual fund distribution.

    Here is the snapshot of the opinion poll result.

    What would be the impact on lower trail commission on assets acquired before 2015?

    It will encourage churning in the MF industry: 2502 votes, 61%

    No churning: 220 votes, 5%

    Only fraction of distributors would churn, the majority will advise their clients to continue investments: 1360 votes, 33%

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    13 Comments
    Prashant · 4 years ago `
    First of all why would the so called the most strict regulator allow and in fact encourage AMCs to do this? Why should there be lower trail on old assets? Just for maximising AMC profits they are allowed to do anything they want with the permission of so called the most strict regulator? TER of old and new assets are same now than why should they be allowed to reduce our brokerages to a pigly amount so that they can keep the whole TER to themselves? Shame on all of the corporates and sitting in AC cabins.
    Vikas Gupta · 4 years ago
    Right.
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    Piyush Shah · 4 years ago `
    Absolutely correct, particularly with Big AMCs who has wrongly interpreted SEBI circular on TER and have reduced commission of MFDs in disproportionate manner, particularly of small MFDs and/or having small aums and to increase profit of amcs in wrongful manner and practice. No cut in fund mangers and staff salary though.
    Punit · 4 years ago `
    Not only on 2015 aum TER CUT impact on asset after that till 2019 we get trail 0.19paise only and consider old Aum.For sip new installment of old sip aum is consider as old aum trail. What a rubbish thing going on.
    Vinod Kumar · 4 years ago `
    Why the same circular been interpreted differently by different AMC.

    Reliance, HDFC, icici, SBI, and DSP they have reduced almost 50% on the old AUM.

    While IDFC has reduced it proportional basis.

    How UTI absorb the same. Why the regulator can not see what we as a distributor facing.
    Anil R Patel · 4 years ago `
    Really all AMCs and Regulatory plus corporate playing foxical game with small IFAs who works in small villages for poor & less-educated investors & farmers. With impliment of TER there is no change in investors benifits. But increase all AMCs profit.
    Thus cutting in brockrage
    Vishhal Malhotra · 4 years ago `
    I am sorry to state here honestly that I will be compel to churn. One of my excuse is that my total earnings are dependent on Mutual Fund business only. And I am a small time retail Mutual Funds Distributor.
    prem · 4 years ago `
    This idea by sebi will hurt the industry as there is lot of reduction in brokerage and new business are all time low, So the easy way for distributors need to concentrate on old AUM .
    Nishikant Rotkar · 4 years ago `
    Regulations, Actions of Regulator & AMC in last one year shows that they think TER in MF only consists of distributors Brokerage . Bcoz all the other expenses are as before but only Distributors brokerage is cut down by 25% .- 30% Corporates are here only to increase their profits they have nothing to do with Distributors survival or distributors problems.

    After slashing distributors brokerage & removing B30 incentives just look at the rally in HDFC AMC stock it has doubled from listing price. So, here onwards AMCs will be more concerned only about the share holders of AMC, they will try to maximise profits, improve EPS, EBIDTA & etc etc.

    They will miss no chance to increase their profits & will further exploit unorganised distributors. Thats the Capitalism for you guys. Industry which is grown & developed by efforts Sweat & blood of the small distributors will be ignored & more focus will be on profits in balancesheets.
    Monil Daru · 4 years ago `
    Very wrong practice by SEBI on old assets.anywhere in the world new rule is only applicable to new assets only. TRE & TRAIL MUST BE APPLICABLE TO NEW ASSETS ONLY..SEBI works in one way only.
    Vishal Rastogi · 4 years ago `
    The current mode of brokerages & practice is completely against Business Ethics. If the Ethics is strong & correct than why any distributor or IFA will go for any such churnings. CORRECT THE BUSINESS METHOD, THERE WILL BE NO SUCH QUESTION EVEN IN ANY MIND.
    Prem · 4 years ago `
    SEBI indirectly asking for mis Selling by churning old assets. Few AMCs getting more share for no logic
    Prem · 4 years ago `
    SEBI indirectly asking for mis Selling by churning old assets. Few AMCs getting more share for no logic .No clarity of the circular . In the long run small retail investors will be out without help of small distributors.
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