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  • MF News AMCs to deduct GST from commission from July 1

    AMCs to deduct GST from commission from July 1

    PwC recommends AMCs to deduct GST from commission of distributors who do not have GST registration.
    Nishant Patnaik Jun 22, 2017

    AMCs are likely to deduct GST from the commission of distributors who do not have GST registration number and pass it on to the government from July 1.

    In a meeting with AMFI last Saturday, PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) has recommended fund houses to deduct GST on commission income of distributors who do not have GST registration number.

    Earlier, AMFI had appointed PWC to prepare a whitepaper on the implementation of GST and its impact on the mutual fund industry.

    Explaining to Cafemutual, how the new GST regime would be implemented, a senior official who attended this meeting said, “Theoretically, the government has exempted distributors earning less than Rs.20 lakh from taking GST registration number. However, if a distributor sell schemes of a fund that is based outside his home state, he has to take GST registration number. Suppose, a Chennai based distributor is selling the schemes of a Mumbai based fund house, he will have to take GST registration. In addition, Maharashtra-based distributors earning less than Rs.20 lakh dealing only with Maharashtra based AMCs need not take GST registration but unlike service tax, GST has to be paid from Rs.1. Hence, IFAs are better off taking GST registration number to get gross commission irrespective of their income so that they can save some amount through input credit.”

    In a recent communication sent to distributors, Motilal Oswal MF has urged its distributors to take GST registration number. The company said, “All the distributors located outside the Maharashtra state are liable to register and pay GST from rupee 1 turnover. We urge all the distributors located outside Maharashtra to immediately register under GST regime (If they have not done so) and if already registered, provide us the number. For distributors having their place of business in Maharashtra would register based on the limit of Rs.20 lakh.”

    The fund house has also requested IFAs to follow practice of raising invoice for the brokerage or commission.

    The CEO from a private fund house told Cafemutual that GST norms require that all distributors would have to take GST registration irrespective of their earnings. Non-registration is non-compliance with GST norms, he said.

    With effect from July 1, 2017, the government has exempted distributors earning less than Rs.20 lakh from paying GST.

    Another senior official said that the re-introduction of reverse charge mechanism would help distributors to deal with multiple state registration. He says, “AMCs anyway may have to register with all states. However, reverse charge mechanism will shift the onus of paying service tax on AMCs on behalf of distributors. This could reduce the cost of compliance for distributors. However, a few distributors who earns less than Rs.20 lakh may get affected but it would benefit them all for sure in the long term.”

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    80 Comments
    Mohan Lal Jain · 6 years ago `
    All big AMC'S have many branches in the states doing huge business of mutual funds only the commission is processed on centralised basis this does not give them liberty that they belongs to Maharashtra.We are dealing with them in our state and our customers are also of within the state hence we also become local distributors the brokerage is directly credited into a/c and we do not know from where the payment is made either from our state or else from other state.All AMCS required to take registration in every working states so that distributors will become local and can avail benefit of exemption below 20 lakh.PWC has misguided IN THE ENTIRE matter.Pl think on my views.
    Vipan · 6 years ago `
    As Per the exemption limit for distributors from special states is Rs10 lakh a year. Special category states comprise Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Jammu and Kashmir, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland, Sikkim, Tripura, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand. Since most AMCs are based out of Maharashtra, Gujarat and Tamil Nadu, distributors based out of special category states will have to obtain GST registration.
    But my query is that as I fall in special state i.e himachal pradesh and have already obtained GST no. Whether exemption limit Rs.10 lakh a year is applicable as none of the amc is registered in himachal pradesh. In this scenario what is GST applicability for special states. plz clarify.
    PRABHJEET · 6 years ago `
    IF SOMEONE SELL MY COMPANY GOODS AS CONTRACT AND I WILL PAY HIM COMMISSION ON IT. IS GST APPLICABLE ON COMMISSION IN THAT CASE
    Bijay Shanker sharma · 6 years ago `
    I have a question from last 3 days I am trying to register for GST but I am facing trouble. please help me in this process. when I am filling information they are asking type of business "I don't which option i will select in this" if any mutual fund IFA registered themselves then please reply !
    Dharam Chand Pareek · 6 years ago `
    Sir,
    education Commission Income GST Registration SAC code 99 not search in registration
    sidesh · 6 years ago `
    I am a NJ Broker from Mumbai. As most of AMCs are registered offices at Mumbai and my clients are also in Mumbai, with Commission income of less than 10 lac in year , do I need to register with GST, because in my case it will be intra state supply of service (within state) and income below 20 lac limit?
    sandip datta · 6 years ago `
    As an ifa from n.e region ve no gst registration and his commission is less than rs 20 lakh whether amc will deduct the amount of gst please help me out.
    PUNIT DIXIT · 6 years ago `
    DEAR SIR
    KINDLY PROVIDE THE STEP BY STEP GST REGISTRATION PROCESS FOR INDIVIDUAL MUTUAL FUND ADVISORS.
    kartika B. Mehta · 6 years ago `
    It is a big burden to the distributor to get the gstn no. as if u get it the person has to file a return every month although his income is below taxable limit. If u do not get registered amcs cut 18% gst which is unfair as this is the income of the distributor on which tds is also cut. so we are loosing 18% +10% =28% tax. Most of the distributors are earning less than 20 lakhs. so why burden them with gst? Just like 15g form for not cutting tds there should be a form declaring income less than 20 lakhs so that no gst is cut and need not require to get registered under gst and face the hassle of filing returns every month. This is a protest against gst on behalf of small distributor. We are filling our income tax returns. no need to burden us of gst.
    Meet Sugat · 6 years ago `
    Is July month commission deposited ?
    Ranjan singh · 6 years ago `
    ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? gst ????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ?? gct????? ?? ?????? ???
    Rajjan singh · 6 years ago `
    ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? gst ????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ?? gct????? ?? ?????? ???
    BHAIYA LAL · 6 years ago `
    After reading all the discussion ,there are some questions raised in my mind...

    In all the business of any kind wheather small or big every one is passing the gst tax on the end user(customer).eg. if a product is priced rs.100 before gst and suppose after gst its price is 105 , then who is bearing the price obviously the customer.who was paying rs. 100 now he will pay 105. Bussiness house passing the tax on the customer but here we have to pay the tax after paying the income tax ,to whom we will pass. If a person earning 5 lakh p.a.first he have to pay gst from rs.1 and after that he will be suppose to pay income tax also. Who is paying gst from their income?? it is total unfair...

    I want to share a story to complete my point..

    If a person go to a resturent and order some food, waiter serve the food to him. Here three party are involved.the resurant who is earning the profit and all the food is taxable, 2nd the consumer, who consume the food and taking the luxury of resturant, paying the tax. Can u imagine if waiter have to give tax??what his fault, how he get involved in all this??
    Disclamer:
    resturant =Amc
    Consumer=investor who get the profit of investing
    Waiter = IFA.
    Now thing of it.
    Bhaiya lal · 6 years ago `
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    MF News AMCs to deduct GST from commission from July 1
    AMCs to deduct GST from commission from July 1
    PwC recommends AMCs to deduct GST from commission of distributors who do not have GST registration.
    Nishant Patnaik Jun 21, 2017

    AMCs are likely to deduct GST from the commission of distributors who do not have GST registration number and pass it on4 to the government from July 1.

    In a meeting with AMFI last Saturday, PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) has recommended fund houses to deduct GST on commission income of distributors who do not have GST registration number.

    Earlier, AMFI had appointed PWC to prepare a whitepaper on the implementation of GST and its impact on the mutual fund industry.

    Explaining to Cafemutual, how the new GST regime would be implemented, a senior official who attended this meeting said, “Theoretically, the government has exempted distributors earning less than Rs.20 lakh from taking GST registration number. However, if a distributor sell schemes of a fund that is based outside his home state, he has to take GST registration number. Suppose, a Chennai based distributor is selling the schemes of a Mumbai based fund house, he will have to take GST registration. In addition, Maharashtra-based distributors earning less than Rs.20 lakh dealing only with Maharashtra based AMCs need not take GST registration but unlike service tax, GST has to be paid from Rs.1. Hence, IFAs are better off taking GST registration number to get gross commission irrespective of their income so that they can save some amount through input credit.”

    In a recent communication sent to distributors, Motilal Oswal MF has urged its distributors to take GST registration number. The company said, “All the distributors located outside the Maharashtra state are liable to register and pay GST from rupee 1 turnover. We urge all the distributors located outside Maharashtra to immediately register under GST regime (If they have not done so) and if already registered, provide us the number. For distributors having their place of business in Maharashtra would register based on the limit of Rs.20 lakh.”

    The fund house has also requested IFAs to follow practice of raising invoice for the brokerage or commission.

    The CEO from a private fund house told Cafemutual that GST norms require that all distributors would have to take GST registration irrespective of their earnings. Non-registration is non-compliance with GST norms, he said.

    With effect from July 1, 2017, the government has exempted distributors earning less than Rs.20 lakh from paying GST.18

    Another senior official said that the re-introduction of reverse charge mechanism would help distributors to deal with multiple state registration. He says, “AMCs anyway may have to register with all states. However, reverse charge mechanism will shift the onus of paying service tax on AMCs on behalf of distributors. This could reduce the cost of compliance for distributors. However, a few distributors who earns less than Rs.20 lakh may get affected but it would benefit them all for sure in the long term.”

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    75 Comments

    Mohan Lal Jain · 1 month ago
    All big AMC'S have many branches in the states doing huge business of mutual funds only the commission is processed on centralised basis this does not give them liberty that they belongs to Maharashtra.We are dealing with them in our state and our customers are also of within the state hence we also become local distributors the brokerage is directly credited into a/c and we do not know from where the payment is made either from our state or else from other state.All AMCS required to take registration in every working states so that distributors will become local and can avail benefit of exemption below 20 lakh.PWC has misguided IN THE ENTIRE matter.Pl think on my views.
    Reply

    Vipan · 4 weeks ago
    As Per the exemption limit for distributors from special states is Rs10 lakh a year. Special category states comprise Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Jammu and Kashmir, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland, Sikkim, Tripura, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand. Since most AMCs are based out of Maharashtra, Gujarat and Tamil Nadu, distributors based out of special category states will have to obtain GST registration.
    But my query is that as I fall in special state i.e himachal pradesh and have already obtained GST no. Whether exemption limit Rs.10 lakh a year is applicable as none of the amc is registered in himachal pradesh. In this scenario what is GST applicability for special states. plz clarify.
    Reply

    PRABHJEET · 4 weeks ago
    IF SOMEONE SELL MY COMPANY GOODS AS CONTRACT AND I WILL PAY HIM COMMISSION ON IT. IS GST APPLICABLE ON COMMISSION IN THAT CASE
    Reply

    Bijay Shanker sharma · 3 weeks ago
    I have a question from last 3 days I am trying to register for GST but I am facing trouble. please help me in this process. when I am filling information they are asking type of business "I don't which option i will select in this" if any mutual fund IFA registered themselves then please reply !
    Reply

    Dharam Chand Pareek · 3 weeks ago
    Sir,
    education Commission Income GST Registration SAC code 99 not search in registration
    Reply

    sidesh · 2 weeks ago
    I am a NJ Broker from Mumbai. As most of AMCs are registered offices at Mumbai and my clients are also in Mumbai, with Commission income of less than 10 lac in year , do I need to register with GST, because in my case it will be intra state supply of service (within state) and income below 20 lac limit?
    Reply

    sandip datta · 2 weeks ago
    As an ifa from n.e region ve no gst registration and his commission is less than rs 20 lakh whether amc will deduct the amount of gst please help me out.
    Reply

    PUNIT DIXIT · 1 week ago
    DEAR SIR
    KINDLY PROVIDE THE STEP BY STEP GST REGISTRATION PROCESS FOR INDIVIDUAL MUTUAL FUND ADVISORS.
    Reply

    kartika B. Mehta · 1 week ago
    It is a big burden to the distributor to get the gstn no. as if u get it the person has to file a return every month although his income is below taxable limit. If u do not get registered amcs cut 18% gst which is unfair as this is the income of the distributor on which tds is also cut. so we are loosing 18% +10% =28% tax. Most of the distributors are earning less than 20 lakhs. so why burden them with gst? Just like 15g form for not cutting tds there should be a form declaring income less than 20 lakhs so that no gst is cut and need not require to get registered under gst and face the hassle of filing returns every month. This is a protest against gst on behalf of small distributor. We are filling our income tax returns. no need to burden us of gst.
    Reply

    Meet Sugat · 6 days ago
    Is July month commission deposited ?
    Reply

    Ranjan singh · 8 hours ago
    ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? gst ????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ?? gct????? ?? ?????? ???
    Reply

    Rajjan singh · 8 hours ago
    ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? gst ????? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??????? ?? gct????? ?? ?????? ???
    Reply

    BHAIYA LAL · 1 second ago
    After reading all the discussion ,there are some questions raised in my mind...

    In all the business of any kind wheather small or big every one is passing the gst tax on the end user(customer).eg. if a product is priced rs.100 before gst and suppose after gst its price is 105 , then who is bearing the price obviously the customer.who was paying rs. 100 now he will pay 105. Bussiness house passing the tax on the customer but here we have to pay the tax after paying the income tax ,to whom we will pass. If a person earning 5 lakh p.a.first he have to pay gst from rs.1 and after that he will be suppose to pay income tax also. Who is paying gst from their income?? it is total unfair...

    I want to share a story to complete my point..

    If a person go to a resturent and order some food, waiter serve the food to him. Here three party are involved.the resurant who is earning the profit and all the food is taxable, 2nd the consumer, who consume the food and taking the luxury of resturant, paying the tax. Can u imagine if waiter have to give tax??what his fault, how he get involved in all this??
    Disclamer:
    resturant =Amc
    Consumer=investor who get the profit of investing
    Waiter = IFA.
    Now thing of it.
    Parviz Batada · 6 years ago `
    If a Mutual Fund distributor who is not registered under GST, is residing in Mumbai & Mutual Fund company's registered office is located in Mumbai, will his commission be paid without deducting GST? as the supply is not inter-state.
    R k sharma · 6 years ago `
    I AM DISTRIBUTOR FORM LUCKNOW MY INCOME LESS THAN 20 LAKH P. A.
    HOW TO PAY GST
    vivek · 6 years ago `
    hello, mine is service based business , C&F agent for a company and i have registered for GST

    1.i do not raise any invoices on my firm name ,

    2. i get only commission for my service which is less than 15lakhs,

    3. do i need to show my expenses ( loading unloading charges and freight charges )

    4. i pay my office rent they charge me 18% gst


    now how do i file my returns ??

    do i need to give nil report ??
    RAM KUMAR SHARMA · 6 years ago `
    ??????? ??
    ??? ?? ????? ????? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ??????? ?? ???? 20 ??? ?? ?? ????? ?? GST ???? ?? ?? ??? ???? ???
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