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  • MF News 'What sustains us is the smile we see on a customer’s face': V Shankar, CAMS

    'What sustains us is the smile we see on a customer’s face': V Shankar, CAMS

    In the second part of a two-part interview, V Shankar, Director, CAMS defines the roadmap for his company.
    Ravi Samalad May 20, 2012

    In the second part of a two-part interview, V Shankar, Director, CAMS defines the roadmap for his company.

    Today the MF industry is in a consolidation phase. How does it affect your business?

    The MF industry has been witnessing reduced investor interest for the last two years. Since CAMS depends so heavily on the MF R&TA business, it has significantly impacted our revenue and profitability. However, we are using the opportunity to revisit our processes to improve efficiency and customer responsiveness.

    The mutual fund industry has witnessed erosion in folios. Does that affect your earnings?

    As mentioned earlier, CAMS’ dependency on the MF business is high. Due to reduced investor interest, transactions volumes and therefore the MF accounts and assets have come down. This has impacted CAMS’ earnings adversely.

    Is it a challenge to constantly change your systems to meet regulatory rules? How many times have you tweaked your systems to comply with the changing regulatory framework? Is the cost of compliance high?

    Considering the fact that MF is retail intensive with a very large section of investors not having access to quality financial advice, it is imperative for the regulator to play an active investor protection role. We therefore do not look at regulatory changes as a burden (whether in terms of efforts or cost). Being an integral part of the MF ecosystem, it is in our interest to have a robust compliance infrastructure which will ensure sustainable revenue stream.

    How many people does CAMS employ?

    CAMS employs directly and through its partners in excess of 3,000 employees.

    How much stake do HDFC and Advent International currently hold in CAMS?

    The HDFC group holds around 31% and Advent has 30% stake in CAMS.

    What are some of the new services and technologies you have introduced which has helped your clients and investors?

    We enhanced our service scope to include call centres, Web hosting and electronic payment services to our MF clients. This has enabled MFs to improve the quality and time taken to service the investor requirements. Cycle time to close a call or register an SIP has come down significantly. We also reach out to investors on the rights, responsibilities and privileges of investors through CAMS Viveka, an investor education series in the print media. We have co-invested with Karvy in creating Finnet, a platform for intermediaries. It is doing very well.

    R&T guys work behind the door. It is often the fund houses which are in the limelight. Do you think that R&Ts should also win some recognition for their work? Has CAMS won any awards for excellence in R&T work?

    Though R&TAs are the investor/distributor facing arms of the fund houses, they are not recognised in any public forum. What sustains us is the smile that we see on the investor face when we satisfy his needs and appreciation mails that we receive from our clients. Yes, there should be recognition for the work done by R&TAs.

    How many investors transact through your website?

    We get around 1.2 to 1.4 crore hits on our website every month. Transactions can be put through our website and also through the Finnet platform. Together we do around 2 to 2.5 lakh transactions a month. Distributors and Investors use camsonline.com for nearly 1.5 million electronic reports/statements every month.

    How do you decide where to set up a CAMS branch office? Does the investor population play any role? Have you shut any branches in the recent past?

    Till about a year back, we have been investing in setting up front office infrastructure with the premise that availability and access will lead to category growth. This means that the front office will not be financially viable for the first few years at least. R&TAs have been the face of the MF industry in most of the towns in India. While a typically large AMC might have presence in 80 or so locations, we have presence in around 200 locations.

    In parallel, CAMS set up an electronic platform called Finnet which provides the IFAs and through them the investors, an opportunity to participate in MFs even if the AMCs (or CAMS) do not have a physical presence in that town. Around 1,500 distributors use the platform now. With Finnet gaining acceptance with the distribution community, we feel that physical infrastructure may not be as critical as it was earlier. We have closed a few branches where the local distributors are comfortable with Finnet and the volumes do not justify the physical branch.

    How many branches does CAMS currently have? The regulator is telling mutual funds to penetrate smaller towns. How can R&Ts play a role in expanding the reach of mutual funds in India?

    CAMS has about 200 front offices now. Most of the centres are in Tier-II and Tier-III towns. As we discussed earlier, these front offices are ‘look-ahead’ investments made with a view to grow the MF industry, though on a standalone basis, they are financially unviable.

    We are investing substantially in our electronic platform to provide additional features and facilities. We are also investing in popularising the platform so that distributors in far-flung cities, like Srinagar and North-Eastern cities, can also participate in MFs with same day NAV. In our view, this would go a long way in providing cost-effective reach to the industry.

    CAMS was recently allowed to be an electronic repository for insurance companies. How do you see this opportunity?

    CAMS Repository Services Limited, a subsidiary of CAMS, has been given in-principle approval for setting up an insurance repository. As the name suggests, the repository will hold the insurance policies in electronic format providing enormous convenience and safety to the policyholder while reducing the cost for manufacturers. Considering the fact that the insurance industry is several times larger than the MF industry, we feel that the opportunity could be large, if executed well.

    Is the R&T business risky considering the fact that any slippages in handling investor data can be held against you by your clients and the regulators?

    It is absolutely true that the R&T business is as much about risk management as about processing. Excellence in risk management from long years of experience is what leads to business excellence, be it the R&T business or being an acrobat in a circus.

    The R&T business is a mature business with well-evolved business practices and processes. We have used technology to not only improve efficiency, but also to reduce risks. CAMS has a robust risk identification and mitigation process which enables it to deliver high quality services without compromising on controls.

    In which other areas and businesses are you contemplating a foray?

    CAMS’ core strengths are its pan-India presence, proven process/quality orientation in transaction processing and delivering business outcomes, ability to scale up and down and handle volume fluctuations. Leveraging these capabilities, our focus would be on providing services to financial sector players in banking, insurance etc. We will not enter any space which would put us in conflict with the stakeholders whom we serve—investors, manufacturers and distributors.

    What is your roadmap for CAMS for the next two years?

    Our focus would be to improve the adoption of our electronic platform so that we are able to serve the regulatory vision and contribute to the growth of the MF industry by providing reach in a cost-effective manner. We will invest substantially for this initiative.

    We have in our own way contributed to investor education by holding a large number of education events in Tier-II and Tier-III cities in the last three years. One unique feature about these events is that they are held in local languages. We also contribute to the investor awareness series on MFs through Hindu Business Line on a fortnightly basis. We will sustain this initiative going forward.

    Other big area of focus would be insurance repository. We will invest on popularising the concept and also the technology to deliver value to the policyholder and the insurance companies.

    (The first part of the interview was carried on 19th May).

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