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  • MF News Trail commission comes down post ban on upfront commission

    Trail commission comes down post ban on upfront commission

    In most instances, AMCs have reduced trail commission to the extent of 30 bps.
    Nishant Patnaik Nov 2, 2018

    Trail commission of distributors have come down drastically post the ban on upfront commission. In fact, in a few instances, a few AMCs have reduced trail commission of distributors to an extent of 0.30%.

    Though only a handful of fund houses have released their brokerage structure, others are expected to follow this structure.

    A CEO of a mid-sized fund house attributed this decline to expected reduction in TER. “In my view, most fund houses have factored in the proposed reduction in TER structure. Though the amendment in regulations on reduction of TER is still awaited, most fund houses have been trying to check their costs.”

    Another key reason for this reduction is that AMCs will have to pay such commissions from scheme and not from AMC book. This reduces the capacity of fund houses to pay commissions. “SEBI has clarified that AMCs cannot give commission from their books. Also, the market regulator said that the difference between the expense ratio of direct and regulator plans would now be to the extent of distribution commission,” said a CEO of an emerging fund house.

    Meanwhile, a few AMCs have introduced a new trail structure for B30 distributors under the head ‘Annual Retention Incentive for B30 locations’ to compensate distributors having assets under advisory from B30 locations. This has replaced upfront commission paid to distributors for B30 assets. So far, fund houses have paid such upfront commissions of upto 2%. However, a few distributors told Cafemutual that such a payout has been reduced by 0.50% to 1.50% in an all trail structure.

    Last week, SEBI has banned upfront commission in mutual funds and directed fund houses to follow all-trail model to compensate their distributors. In addition, SEBI has asked fund houses not to do any upfronting of trail commission.

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    42 Comments
    IFA-DO-OR-DIE · 5 years ago `
    We will not accept so easily this time. We will fight back. People cant decide for IFA sitting in AC canins and act like a dictator.

    IFA.DOORDIE@GMAIL.COM

    #IFA-DO-OR-DIE
    Subhash · 5 years ago
    Wt you want to do.wt strategy you make against this issue.
    IFA · 5 years ago
    Posting comments here only will not help. If we feel something is not right,we must try to correct it. Thankful to those IFAs who have joined us through emails and have shared their valuable views to make it better. We will succeed this time no matter what. Already we have started writing to the competent authority.

    As Soon as we reach decided strength, we will raise it through social media and other platforms as well. Do connect to us and share your interest (IFA.DOORDIE@GMAIL.COM) as we want IFAs from every location. Our voice must resonate.


    Rajesh Mishra · 5 years ago
    I hope this Leads to finish IFA's, all broker's, TPA's, what is this ? That means DALAL khatm , one step more to increase unemployment..
    Reply
    Prasanjit Baruah · 5 years ago `
    Pl look matter upfront commission.
    Pawan Khurana · 5 years ago `
    Major problem is that how to decide GST , Should any IFA Continue in GST or not. Those have registered themselves in GST, NOW their brokerage will come down very sharply. Now once again IFA need to calculate the GST . GREAT CONFUSION.
    Deepak · 5 years ago `
    Why writer is so enthusiastic about reduction of Trail commission....does his intend to get prepare for this to IFA on behalf of AMC n Other regulators.
    Girish prasad · 5 years ago `
    They are killing mutual fund slowly slowly. as they have killed post office scenes
    Killed Ppf and NPS also.Debarding small investors from mutual fund .they don't want small amounts.they want only HNI
    Ashish Desai · 5 years ago
    Very True
    Reply
    Rohit · 5 years ago `
    Are we living in a democratic society. Only handful people sitting in SEBI are deciding the fate of so many distributors and ifa's, many of whose bread and butter is solely from the commission they earn. And no one to ask SEBI - WHY? Is commission a bad term? Then what about the effort made by us in terms of spreading knowledge about mutual funds, wandering here and there, doing followups and then giving after sales service. Has SEBI gone blind that it can not see the pain it has caused to the genuine distributors and ifa's. There are already so less people in this industry. And this move seems to dissuade the new entrants entering the industry and to benefit only the online companies.
    Sridhar · 5 years ago `
    Regulators are quick in dictating terms of Distributors commission who will chck miss selling of corporate banks.why they are selling regular funds when they have there own funds. Next why they are forcing people to by mf for certain services like locker.
    Deepak panda · 5 years ago `
    IFA community should raise their voice against it, I believe SEBI has good intetion to this as it can help to stop misselling but who did their carrier in this sector can't survive.SEBI should consider this.
    Ranjan · 5 years ago
    Time and again I requested FIFA to file a petition in Supreme court about the injustice SEBI is doing number of times. Only SC can stay this type of whimsical decision by SEBI.Expenses part we IFAs will contribute
    Reply
    Vaibhav · 5 years ago `
    Write to SEBI and if no results write to Ministry of Finance. Elections time are on. Government must listen to our voice.
    parag · 5 years ago
    Sebi wants de stablise Indian equity markets as they have been shocked by inflows and FII have lost there control power of government n markets due to Mf....sebi doesn't wants aam admi to become rich n wants to make it a product of rich people.... they don't understand cost of acquisition
    Reply
    KAUSHIK C PATEL · 5 years ago `
    in insurance still agents gets 4% on renewal premium, what's wrong with mf industries, if agents not get reasonable out put, slowly agents will shift to some other product, and mf industries will collapse.
    R Vasagan Arasu · 5 years ago `
    We had farmers suicide in this country and we will now start hearing about Mutual Fund advisors committing suicide. Which profession works for free and how could a regulator think only about investors and not about the foot soldiers who help the investor and does the Fund houses have enough man power to generate the present volume of business without the IFA'S. Do SEBI have any idea how the IFA'S run their family without income. Probably the regulators have a feeling that the business have grown only because of their advertisement of Mutul Funds sahi hai.
    Hemant B KAMDAR · 5 years ago `
    Unite and fight for your our rights
    Mallar Moitra · 5 years ago `
    Newcomers like us in this industry, who endeavour for the goods of their journey through gathering knowledge, inclusion of new investors having concept about mutual funds as a devil, are feeling disappointed as none of such endeavours is possible with empty stomach.
    Desmond Mascarenhas · 5 years ago `
    Ache din ha ha ha. Government wants people to think insurance as an investment and invest in LIC only, so it's hell bent on breaking the back of mutual fund distributors.
    Arshad · 5 years ago `
    Tum sab ke pet par aur rozi roti par SEBI ne laat maari hai. Ye kiske ishaare par ho raha hai. Ye to wahi baat ho gai ki ek ya do aantankiyon ki wajah se poori kaum ko jimmedaar tehraana. Sebi ne bhi yahi kaam kiya. Bekasoor ko saja. Uski roti cheen li
    kunal · 5 years ago `
    Now Big AMC has gathered good AUM...they don't need advisors as they are getting more income from direct plan by keeping expense ratio same as regular plan... getting support from many online apps n website selling Mf fooling by showing difference in lakhs .... So this is increasing Amc profit.... when it comes to bank promoted AMC they will not worry as end of d day they will receive payout in form of more dividend
    Divyeshkumar J Makani · 5 years ago `
    I was reading the comments I did't find any solution is this only the way we have to suffer guys trail are on market valuation every month. Think over it.
    Rajesh · 5 years ago `
    Read so many reviews on the article. Everyone is criticizing SEBI/AMC/Govt. Instead of guys wasting energy & time like this, following are the 2 best options available:

    1. Nobody in this world has compelled to sell mutual funds, those who find it non productive can easily start selling other products carrying higher commissions.

    2. Every AMC has printed on their application forms that upfront commission shall be paid directly by the investor to the ARN holder as per the advise/services rendered by him, so start charging fees from investors.

    As a mutual fund distributor, one is free to ask for the desired fees from the investors for all types of after sales services/advisory. There is no point in crying every day for reduction in commissions.

    Pragna pansuriya · 5 years ago `
    How can ifa work?
    Every month news come about structure of commission.
    Mutual fund selling not easy as compare to lic and other investment profuct.
    I strongly oppose this sebi guidelines as per structure change
    MURALI · 5 years ago `
    A back of the envelope calculation shows that an amount of Rs 1 lakh sourced in equity fund would provide a fee of Rs 25 /- per month ( @ .3 trail to satisfy the TER ratio ), provided the investor does not withdraw the funds.In a city like Bangalore , the acquisition cost of the business would not be less than Rs 500/- , which is the minimum. The time spent is another matter depending on the client's knowledge level. One can think.
    PANCHANAN · 5 years ago `
    Mutual fund gaya bharme
    shaif walia · 5 years ago `
    Ab Hume Protest K Taur Pe Naya Buisness Mutual Fund Mein Band Kar Ulip Iic Ki Taraf Dhyan Dena Chahiye Apne Aap Unki Akal Dhikane Ayegi Jab Pure India Se New Buisness Band Hoga Tab Hi Humara Koi Sochega
    gANESH RAJPUT · 5 years ago `
    Hi, Mr. Nishant,
    Can you guide us that.
    A- Can some on in mutual fund distributor capacity charge client any fees in current regulatory framework.
    1- upfront -( fixed / percentage on investment or both )
    2- Annual service fees ( fixed / percentage or both )
    Please guide if possible.
    satish mishra · 5 years ago `
    koi to bole modi ji jindabaad
    Rajib datta · 5 years ago `
    In this time all IFA protest necessary because new ifa are not interested of your job . Protest against Amc & sebi as well as finance department govt of India.
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