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  • MF News FIFA, FIAI to meet AMFI on reduction of trail commission

    FIFA, FIAI to meet AMFI on reduction of trail commission

    These associations would propose that the industry should split the impact of reduction in Total Expense Ratio (TER).
    Nishant Patnaik Jun 23, 2018

    Foundation of Independent Financial Advisors (FIFA) and Financial Intermediaries Association of India (FIAI), an association of national distributors will meet AMFI soon on reduction of trail commission.

    Dhruv Mehta, Chairman, FIFA told Cafemutual “We will request AMFI that the industry should share the impact of reduced cost equally among fund houses and distributors.”

    Many fund houses have reduced trail commission to the extent of 15 to 20 bps following rationalization of TER by SEBI.

    Earlier, SEBI has revised the definition of top cities and beyond top cities for additional TER. It has also reduced expenses charged in lieu of exit to 0.05%. Both these changes have led to reduction in overall TER and trail commission.

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    65 Comments
    TANMOY PATRA · 6 years ago `
    It's very painful to all IFA. PLEASE STOP REDUCE TRAIL COMMISSION.
    p n kESHARI · 6 years ago `
    ARN-4103
    In every day life of IFA there is increased pressure from Investors to serve them at their door. There is big problem if Investor is partially literate without Computer and E mail address.
    They can call any time post investment on demand of daily NAV, Valuation of their funds, Redemption and switches.All these are like impossible at service in B 2 towns stretching several kilometers.
    It is painful to find sudden reduction in upfront and trails to IFAs
    AMFI as our Gods Father must protect us.
    G.Vijaya · 6 years ago `
    It is unjustice, advosiors already facing very difficult to get the investors. Rethink, not reduce commisdions.
    Jaideep · 6 years ago `
    The pay scale of government employee increases every year....but goverment targets service industry ...so very much problem of unemployment
    Mahesh kumar sahoo · 6 years ago `
    it is very sad to reduce trail ur upfront what ever sebi should look fr insurance commission highly what is mf upfront negligble
    Nirmal · 6 years ago `
    Sad News to IFA Plz stop this kind of Thing ,
    Anil K Jain · 6 years ago `
    It is seen that TER of all schemes is increased by 1 to 2 paise, means investor has to pay more, and the additional upfront pay out in earlier B15 cities is stopped. Now after reduction in the trail by yet another 15 to 20 bps it will take a double hit for the survival of the distributor's in earlier B15.

    We fail to understand as how the city like INDORE which was within B15, after due to sudden withdrawal of upfront can be subjected to reduction in overall distributor's trail within 3 months while the AMCs will start saving on the overall TER of the AUM already reached in all these cities prospectively.

    More over last year the distributor community is given a hit @18% in the name of GST and now yet another 20% in the name of TER while the AMCs have not only increased TER in each schemes but have also availed input credits under GST.

    In fact investors through AMCs should pay back GST to the distributors so that this double hit is not given to distributor community alone.

    AMFI must do mathematics of overall fees and it's distribution after considering the overall impact of the exercise prospectively including that of GST inputs availed by the AMC of the GST paid by the distributor's. The investor's contribution to the overall scheme in which he is invested through a distributor should not turnout to be loss to the distributor and gain to the AMC if the regulator is focussing to reduce the cost to the investor's.

    Hope AMFI will collect data of last three years and then will prepare a projection of next three years and after distribution of TER to distributor, AMCs and Government should rationalise it's pattern.
    Prashant · 6 years ago
    Why would AMFI do that? They are a lobby of the fund houses. They are the ones who is making SEBI do this so they can make more profits
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    Keshav kumar · 6 years ago `
    It is not justified for IFA community.Nothing in hands of IFA after deduction in trail commission.
    pRADEEP RANJAN TRIPATHI · 6 years ago `
    THERE SHOULD BE SOME RATIONALE THAT HOW THE AMC FEE TO BE PROPOTIONED AMONG AMC, DISTRIBUTORS AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS OF THE MF INDUSTRY. OTHERWISE AMC WILL ALWAYS WORK AGAINST THE DISTRIBUTORS.
    rajesh Parekh · 6 years ago `
    very bad initiative.
    please look at other financial products where is commission is 25 to 35%. stop that urgently.
    Prashant · 6 years ago
    Why fight within the same (Distributor) community. This is what they want. They want to divide us and rule. Please do not tell them to reduce any commissions but fight for the unjust and malicious campaign by AMCs with the help of SEBI.
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    sameer · 6 years ago `
    on one hand trail getting reduced and on other hand amfi promoting direct plans through advertisements " just opposite to insurance where distributors are promoted " i think coming time will be of ulips if this continues"
    Madhusudan · 6 years ago `
    It's very Sad & unfair. It's hurting IFAs. Everyday the Petrol Price going Up and IFA income is reducing !!! It's very very Sad...
    KARUR SRIDHAR RAM · 6 years ago `
    BY THIS MOVE I ASSUME THAT SEBI IS VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN REMOVING AGENTS IN A PHASED MANNER THUS PROMOTING/ADVERTISING/STRESSING MORE ON DIRECT PLANS - CITING INVESTOR FRIENDLY RULES. THIS IS VERY BAD FOR A SMALL IFAs WHO ARE EARNING PEANUTS AND ADDING TO THIS IGST IS 18% APPLICABLE. WE HAVE TO EVEN PAY 18% IGST AND ALSO INCOME TAX.
    satyanarayan · 6 years ago `
    Distributor gets trail commission of 0.30% to 0.40% for all old assets, even though from 2014 full trail commission started. When trail commission is increased, AMCs have not increased trail for old assets, but I hear from RMs that the reduction will be applicable to all assets. including old and new. When trail commission raised it was not retrospective, but when reduction happen it could be retrospective. Pricing is the reason we have less than 50000 active distributors, but India needs atleast 4 or 5 lakh distributors in MF to service 35 crore families, but Insurance sector has more than 10 lakh agents.
    Prashant · 6 years ago
    SEBI hands in gloves with AMCs are not interested in penetration any more but they are interested in us bringing in more long term investors so they get their investor base which in future they can sell direct plans to because SEBI hands in gloves with AMCs wants to remove distributors so that they maximise their profits and use us and then throw us in a dustbin.

    Shame shame shame
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    SANDEEP · 6 years ago `
    there should be proper distribution of commission among the distributors. this is our bread and butter as we have engage full time into this. SEBI should think wisely that we IFAs are working hard towards clients portfoilio and other services.
    Pranab Kumar Mitra · 6 years ago `
    Very Very sad for us....

    Big pain
    Pranab Kumar Mitra · 6 years ago `
    Very Very sad for us....

    Big pain
    PrakashV Annigeri · 6 years ago `
    First of infuse some senior IFA into Amfi board, next all product we use doesn't come with manufacturing cost and distributor margin, retailer margin except mutual fund, next when govt one hand promotes self-employment another hand stealing the earnings which is minimal....
    PrakashV Annigeri · 6 years ago `
    First of infuse some senior IFA into Amfi board, next all product we use doesn't come with manufacturing cost and distributor margin, retailer margin except mutual fund, next when govt one hand promotes self-employment another hand stealing the earnings which is minimal....
    Sunil · 6 years ago `
    very sad.!!!! ?????? ?? ???? SEBI ?? ??? ???? ???? ????? , ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ???????? ?? ?????/????? ??? ?? ??? ??? ??? ?? ???? ??????? ?? ????? reduce ???? ??? ??? ???? ?? !
    HARENDRA MAHESHWARI · 6 years ago `
    Very sad news, we are giving services and advise to our clients at very low cost, no client pays extra for it, . SEBI AND AMFI must also think for IFAs and make planning to increase revenue as many clients has very less AUM and we give services as required by them timely.
    Chandrashekhar kabra · 6 years ago `
    SEBI & AMFI are working in unision with AMC to phase out distributors in course of time -the process started in 2013-14 and with new vigor and interest in MF, the companies are getting emboldened to force us to take advisory route .The Govt has to realize that markets and economy have all shades and it is the distributor which is your face in a downturn .MF as an asset allocation is a sunrise industry and slowly and steadily due to host of factors including untiering effort of distributor is getting household acceptance.Time for unity amongst our fraternity .PL do the balancing act in stead of making things difficult for intermediary who plays such a vital role in educating investor to put their money in productive asset.
    Chandrashekhar kabra · 6 years ago `
    SEBI & AMFI are working in unision with AMC to phase out distributors in course of time -the process started in 2013-14 and with new vigor and interest in MF, the companies are getting emboldened to force us to take advisory route .The Govt has to realize that markets and economy have all shades and it is the distributor which is your face in a downturn .MF as an asset allocation is a sunrise industry and slowly and steadily due to host of factors including untiering effort of distributor is getting household acceptance.Time for unity amongst our fraternity .PL do the balancing act in stead of making things difficult for intermediary who plays such a vital role in educating investor to put their money in productive asset.
    surinder singh · 6 years ago `
    Very very sad
    Preeti Thakkar · 6 years ago `
    We are already challenged with the direct plans, new GST regulations, inferior performance and now lower commissions, its getting harder. All the major fund houses are making significant profits and with expansion of Investor bases the profits are expected to increase further but small IFA's life has become more and more difficult and there is no Operational leverage we can fall on to like bigger distributors... Please urge for help to this critically endangered community of IFA we too are important for the ecosystem of Investment world in India
    tdevendra · 6 years ago
    amfi and Sebi has no conscience ,heartless, and inhuman in its approach and has all the time feels that that IFA is hit below the belt as we are toothless and succumb to the crumbs of both. while it allows mis-selling from banks, and insurance, and giving respectable salaries, perks, to amcs, fund managers, banking industry, it finds scape goat to bully the ordinary IFA'S who are sandwiched between clients and regulators. while TER is the look out of BIG amc to reduce and attack the poor ifa who day in and day out educate the people and brought the industry. AMFI, SEBI in ungrateful in this aspect while the poor IFA has to educate, inculcate, improve their clients financials of tier i, tier ii, senior citizens , smes funds while complying with the regulations, irritations, volatility of markets, inflation, market conditions, weather forecasting, international ramifications , technology upgradation, self mobility, cell phone costs, then what is a big hole while amc, sebi, amfi personnel sit it iconic towers, enjoying perks of acs,cars, free mobili billings, big fat salaries, ltcs, . the poor ifa is subjected to IT, GST returns and work hard for amc ,sebi, amfi and national builiding. this is reward and also amfi charges huge amounts for renewal, this proves that they no conscience of the people who toil hard
    Ajay Chaudhary · 6 years ago
    Very bad and sad news....Currently difficult to all IFA to maintain existing service to Customer on trail commission And after reduction of trail % service factors will affect definitely. We really don't understand why such things happening.
    Name · 6 years ago
    Sip
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